I would like to have option of TRUE HOME INSTALL for Mandrake LINUX.
Under this, I mean:
-no development tolls/compilers/headers
-no X-utilities (xbill, xcreensaver, xclock, etc.)
-selection of one or several windows managers
with selection of sub-packages to install (like: Install KDE2, but do not
install kdetoys, kdepim)
-no command-line utilities
-Wine/DosEmu as options (with simple dialog box, like: Would you like to
install DOS support? You will need it to run native DOS programs)
-of course, no default installation of Netscape. I don't want to clean it up
after install manually
-Libraries
I still rather new to Linux, and don't know which libraries I can delete
without affecting system (just : libc /5MB/ or glibc /27MB/ are used by the
system? At least one of them, I guess, can be deleted)
And libs like xaw3d, SDL, etc. can be easily deleted even by me maually :-),
but I'd like this automated.
I am running Mandrake 7.0 (Dec 99), and belive that a lot of thins were fixed
in 7.1 installer. Hope, 7.2 will be even more user-friendly and easy to use
Best regards,
Vadim Plessky
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, you wrote:
> Geoffrey Lee wrote:
> > Yo!
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > in a way this is just mandrake, lots of linuces install without a
> > > desktop, because they seem to have been distributed with less of a
> > > one-size-fits-all approach. to be fair 7.0 was also easy to pull the
> > > desktop out and run a server only install. i haven't attempted since,
> > > but
> >
> > Of course we have to cater for server install as well, why do you think
> > we have apache and inn and samba etc in the distro .. :-)
> >
> > > it's a feature that a small, but still significant minority will
> > > probably expect to be possible, without a week of after-install pursuit
> > > of dependencies in thousands of trigger files for what just installed
> > > -- sounds a hell of a lot more like unbloating a solaris box after it
> > > was installed with 'all' to me.
> > >
> > > bottom line, if you want a minimalist server, linux is an option ,but
> > > probably mandrake isn't the best option of the linuxes out there at
> > > present, from what i've seen. But Mandrake remains a great desktop
> > > bells-and-whistles distro.
> >
> > Well, IMHO you can run a Mandrake as server, absolutely no problem. We
> > aim to make it more user-friendly but that doesn't mean that we dump away
> > the server image.
> >
> > Even if you do a default server install you ould still have to do some
> > massive configuration to make it secure, now think, we have lots of kinds
> > of srever we don't really know what server you want to run, perhaps ypu
> > just want apache, in which case you would probably remove telnet whatever
> > etc ...
> >
> > > Question: This list seems primarily focused for employees of
> > > Mandrake-Cooker. I would prefer not to bog down this list with long
> >
> > Yes there are mdksoft employees here but a lot of folks here are just
> > volunteers who make bugz report to us ..(for which we are very grateful!
> > :-)
> >
> > --
> > Geoff
>
> Geoff,
>
> All i'm asking for is a "Console Server Install" installs only the
> basics not X,
> KDE, GNOME, let the user add to the installation, (add inn, openldap,
> postgres)
> heck even make them standard if you want. It would be easier for me to
> un install
> a few server services then what I have to do now.
>
> As for security. When selecting that option turn everything off by
> default. This
> might fit in nicely with the current security scripts in 7.1. I would
> like to see
> the default have nothing, make me turn it on if I want it. Instead of
> turning it
> on by default and then making the user find everything on and turn off
> the stuff
> they don't want.
>
> In this respect openbsd is superior to all linux distributions. Granted
> I don't
> expect Mandrake to become as secure as openbsd over night. But wouldn't
> it be a
> good idea to start the process. Mandrake could become the Easiest and
> the most
> Secure linux distribution.
>
> Just my two cents.
>
> -Jason
