On Wed Mar 06 9:04 +0100, Warly wrote: > Cooker is our principle and precious development help, as a consequence: > > - If there is too many unexperienced user, developpers will lose a lot > of time trying to know what it is really going on, and Andrej is right > to say that if the user investigate a little bit, it is great help and > will decrease the odds that the bug report is just ignored. > > - If there is too many noise, developpers will stop to read cooker, or > reduce the time they spend to read it. This is unfortunately already > happening. > > - We have to encourage people so that the distro will be better and > better, and trying to help and to teach users as you said Leon is > certainly a good investment for the quality and the future of the list > > - We do not have to lose time with non efficient people, or people > that just complain and have no time or no willing to help or to learn. > > - You are right Leon to says that it is more important to know a > showstopper than nothing, but it is unlikely than a showstopper will > only be seen by only newbies and not experienced users, and such > users have plenty of means to report problems apart from cooker, and > be filtered by the community and do not make a developper lose his > precious time 9 times over 10. > > The conclusion is that we must be very demanding on cooker members, > but we must be also very tolerant with new commers that have a real > willing to help and to learn. However there are others mailing lists > for them to learn too, such as expert or like. And it is very > important that we keep a very high signal/noise ratio, or developpers > will simply stop reading cooker, and the same pb that we experienced > with bugzilla will happen. Of course not everyone could be as > efficient as Andrej and some others are, but if you do not aim at > that, I think that maybe this list is not for you.
Maybe a Cooker-list welcome page at linux-mandrake.com would be a good idea? Something that would explain the list and how to file a good bug report? Not quite a real FAQ (that would fill up too quickly and be obsolete), but a general guide. It's after 4 AM as I post this, so maybe my brain is non-functional... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] When it comes down to desperation, You make the best of your situation. Linux 2.4.17-20mdk 4:01am up 8 days, 13:43, 16 users, load average: 0.17, 0.31, 0.27
