On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 03:41, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
> Le mer 26/02/2003 à 12:02, Buchan Milne a écrit :
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> > Teletchéa Stéphane wrote:
> > > Le mar 25/02/2003 à 14:47, Greg Meyer a écrit :
> > >
> > > Yes, this is what i mean.
> > > I understand that i cannot be hardcoded abruptly.
> > > But as many users will choose gnome, some of them, e.g. those like me
> > > without any domain name, will have this error message. I figure last
> > > time (9.0), the had been many complaints about gnome been so long to
> > > start ...
> > >
> > > This needs a fix.
> > > If no network name is defined, the localhost.localdomain must be present
> > > in order to fix the error message and connection into gnome.
> > >
> > 
> > In my testing, if no hostname is supplied in /etc/tmdns.conf, then this
> > is not necessary, see the thread: DHCP Client in Mandrake 9.1 RC1. In
> > this case, tmdns will provide reverse lookups for the current hostname
> > (if there is a NIC present which thinks it has a cable attached, not
> > sure, and cannot test, what happens with no NIC or NIC with no cable).
> 
> I recall you some details :
> On my computer, no NIC, no DHCP (i've never heard about tmdns ...), just
> an RTC connection. So what i report IS a bug in those circumstances, as
> i've never been prompted in a normal install to provide a network name.
> 
> Not a matter of opinion/discussion about localhost.localdomain validity,
> just a fix needed for the end user.
> Stef

Or if your are in a situation like mine.  A mixed Linux/Unix enviroment
where One box with 9.1 on it (and likely to never be more than 2 or 3
out of about 150) ZeroConf has Zero effect.  Argue all you want about
POST configuration reactions.  The first time you start MDK if you are
using any gnome appolication or proftpd.  The applications will not
start. period.  Until you either 

   a) Edit /etc/hosts
   b) Give up on proftpd / gnome and use something else.

This continual attempt to justify something that doesn't work in a mixed
environment is really getting on my nerves and I apologize for seeming
harsh.  ZeroConf might be a great idea.  It might have benefits.  BUT if
the world around it doesn't speak ZeroConf, and the users box isn't
working no amount time spent justifying it still leaves one result.  The
box doesn't work.  The expected result isn't achieved. The user is
picked off.  Sorry for the rant.  I'll crawl back in my hole.  Note this
in my "data file" and know that MDK still won't be something I can just
hand someone a disk and say "have fun".

James



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