-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 James Sparenberg wrote:
> OK let's try this again... please listen carefully.... slowly .... > install MDK... start box for the very first time. Box is not connected > to the net. Box has not yet been configured. Box is brand new. Gnome > does not start.... proftpd does not start. Similar applications that > initially look for localhost.localdomain before the box is configured do > not work... We are talking pre configuration out of the box. brand new > not aware of the world .... not 5 hours after and everything is set up. But you are complaining about the wrong issue. The hostname should *not* be set to localhost.localdomain. If it has not been configured by the user it should be localhost. Hardcoding is the wrong approach, since it *will* result in it breaking again some time. What needs to be done is that if `hostname` does not resolve, then 127.0.0.1 `hostname` should be added to /etc/hosts This would solve it in all possible cases (but could take a few seconds to test). But what happens if the user changes their hostname? Should the entry be removed? > Criminy if I didn't know how to set the systems up I wouldn't have known > what the problem is. How hard is it to understand that all that is > needed is the default config of /etc/hosts to be > > 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost Because that is wrong. Now you change your hostname to something else, and it all breaks again. > > Like every other release of Linux / Unix /Windows / Qnix / AmigaOS out > there in the world. Windows 2000 Pro and Server have the following in their c:\WINNT\system32\drivers\etc\hosts: # Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp. # # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows. # # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name. # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one # space. # # Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual # lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol. # # For example: # # 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server # 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host 127.0.0.1 localhost Sorry, but I do not see a localhost.localdomain. I don't have any other unix to check on available at the moment, but AFAIK, localhost.localdomain was thought up by Redhat. > After 30 freaking years of Telecommunications > systems and networks there isn't a whole lot of the basics I haven't > seen. What I have seen is a whole passle of saviours of the (Lan wan > arpanet internet etc) come and go. Out of the box not connected to > anything but itself gnome, gnome apps take forever to start because of > the change in what is normally available. You can set up DNS, I'm > glad.... - -- |--------------Another happy Mandrake Club member--------------| Buchan Milne Mechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work +27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+XyrkrJK6UGDSBKcRAlRLAJ9DNkfzcjSaFHiOV+mcyXBu6dCilgCeKuRB SgS9LI/EMI7bD5kH6XMknLo= =zwq6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
