At 10:51 PM 6/26/00 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>    Come on guys an Ercoupe wing stalls. It just recovers fast. That was 
> cover
>last week or two ago with info on the wing design. Hold back pressure it
will
>drop, recover, drop, recover, drop, recover until you 1) add power or 2)
ease
>off on the back pressure.

As I said, 'your mileage may vary. N2906H, a 415D, doesn't. It just mushes
along happily. That's with 300 pounds of people aboard. No bobbing of
the nose. None of the cycling. Just a 700FPM or more descent.

Mind you, it's a 415D. The D model has less up elevator travel than the C,
and a less effective elevator than the split-tail E (or conversion).

>     Now with traffic do as is being done. My biggest PO is pilots flying
5
>miles out base in their big flaps. With a turn to finial at 500 feet and
>three miles to go. 210 drivers...

It's the 172 guys that get me. With their massive patterns, shallow turns,
and looooooonnnnnng slow finals. Particularly the students. Why do CFIs
make students fly like they never would themselves? I think I know. The
students need a long final to get their act together and screw up their
courage to come near the ground. I remember those days. Now a long
final just feels to me like more time for something to go wrong, more
time wasted making corrections and dodging our ever-present hawks.

Of course, I've figured out now how to anticipate that and let it play out
on downwind, so maybe I'm getting to be a better pilot. See, while the
'Coupe isn't at all happy dragging along at 70 MPH behind a 172 or 150
on final, it's perfectly happy puttering along at 80 or 85 along the
downwind.
Most Cessna drivers like to burn down the downwind, so they have some
real use for those barn-door flaps. So if they're there, I just chug along
at the speed I'm going to turn final at all stabilized and with the right
amount of E in the bank, while they screw around with throttle and
flaps and all sorts of machinations.

Once they're done, I just go land my airplane.

(To be fair, I find myself using too much power and too much drag and
too many adjustments on the unfortunate occasions when I have to
drive a Buick, I mean Skyhawk, as well. It's just so slow to respond
to inputs that your still in feed-forward mode by the time the feedback
occurs.)

Greg

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