What am I missing here?  I understand, Warren, that a Coupe will only
stall if it's
not rigged correctly.  Isn't that the reason our up elevator is limited?
Thus, if
you're flying an Ercoupe Wing, it'll stall.  If the rest of the plane is
still
attached to it, it will not stall.

Larry

Greg Bullough wrote:

> At 10:51 PM 6/26/00 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >    Come on guys an Ercoupe wing stalls. It just recovers fast. That
was
> > cover
> >last week or two ago with info on the wing design. Hold back pressure
it will
> >drop, recover, drop, recover, drop, recover until you 1) add power or
2) ease
> >off on the back pressure.
>
> As I said, 'your mileage may vary. N2906H, a 415D, doesn't. It just
mushes
> along happily. That's with 300 pounds of people aboard. No bobbing of
> the nose. None of the cycling. Just a 700FPM or more descent.
>
> Mind you, it's a 415D. The D model has less up elevator travel than the
C,
> and a less effective elevator than the split-tail E (or conversion).
>
> >     Now with traffic do as is being done. My biggest PO is pilots
flying 5
> >miles out base in their big flaps. With a turn to finial at 500 feet
and
> >three miles to go. 210 drivers...
>
> It's the 172 guys that get me. With their massive patterns, shallow
turns,
> and looooooonnnnnng slow finals. Particularly the students. Why do CFIs
> make students fly like they never would themselves? I think I know. The
> students need a long final to get their act together and screw up their
> courage to come near the ground. I remember those days. Now a long
> final just feels to me like more time for something to go wrong, more
> time wasted making corrections and dodging our ever-present hawks.
>
> Of course, I've figured out now how to anticipate that and let it play
out
> on downwind, so maybe I'm getting to be a better pilot. See, while the
> 'Coupe isn't at all happy dragging along at 70 MPH behind a 172 or 150
> on final, it's perfectly happy puttering along at 80 or 85 along the
downwind.
> Most Cessna drivers like to burn down the downwind, so they have some
> real use for those barn-door flaps. So if they're there, I just chug
along
> at the speed I'm going to turn final at all stabilized and with the
right
> amount of E in the bank, while they screw around with throttle and
> flaps and all sorts of machinations.
>
> Once they're done, I just go land my airplane.
>
> (To be fair, I find myself using too much power and too much drag and
> too many adjustments on the unfortunate occasions when I have to
> drive a Buick, I mean Skyhawk, as well. It's just so slow to respond
> to inputs that your still in feed-forward mode by the time the feedback
> occurs.)
>
> Greg
>
>
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