On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 08:31:07AM -0400, James E Keenan wrote: > > >Funny you should mention that. I've been slowly working through the > >rewrite of YACSmoke. One of the aspects that I've been thinking > >about is > >having CPAN Testers run the often disputed "pod.t" and "podcover.t" > >type > >tests. > > Yecch! I particularly dislike the pod.t and podcover.t tests. I > specifically do not include them as default selections in > ExtUtils::ModuleMaker.
I can appreciate that podcover.t might not be appropriate, but the pod.t would be. Having well formed POD as documentation is standard good practice, or at least it should be. > >However, the major problem I can see with that is if a distribution is > >well respected, but fails these tests. I can see a huge backlash. > > Starting with me. Hence why I suggested having a separate server that collated these additional tests that were not part of any report sent to the CPAN Testers server. Provided that tests were appropriate, it would be good to having something that required running the distribution that fed into CPANTS. However, what is appropriate, and who decides that, are two questions for another time :) As stated, I only mentioned these as something to perhaps think about for the future, as CPAN Testers are in the postion to be actually running the tests anyway. CPANTS isn't. > But once you start adding "kwalitee" features, you diverge from your > core mission in a misguided attempt to be all things to all people. I don't believe we are. The core mission is to give someone planning to install a distribution a heads up as to whether there might be any issues. The side effect of informing the author has always been just that, a side effect :) If the author isn't testing whether their distribution is broken, then the CPAN Testers could potentially do that. However, I do think these are perhaps metrics that are better fed to something like CPANTS, or possibly a service that can be requested by the author, once we have the admin facility for CPAN Testers. Cheers, Barbie. -- Birmingham Perl Mongers <http://birmingham.pm.org> Memoirs Of A Roadie <http://barbie.missbarbell.co.uk>