Hi Franco,
in 5/21/2018 8:39 PM, Franco Niccolucci wrote:
see below
F.
Prof. Franco Niccolucci
Director, VAST-LAB
PIN - U. of Florence
Scientific Coordinator
ARIADNE - PARTHENOS
Piazza Ciardi 25
59100 Prato, Italy
Attempt of a new one:
Scope note: This class comprises in-principle observable,
I think that the CRM concerns ONLY observables; if so, the specification is
superfluous.
distinct and delimited processes of material nature, in cultural, social or
physical systems, even in a human brain,
Definitely FORTH must have developed a telepathy machine :).
What happens in the human brain is observable only (indirectly) with
electro-encephalogram and the like, so: if this is the intended meaning, it is
just a physical process as any other, e.g. those involving human like blood
pressure vslue, hearth beat, etc. and not worth special mentioning. If instead
this statement refers to (suggests?) observation of thinking, this is (luckily)
not observable.
Well, I know quite well what happens in my (conscious) brain, and I can
give witness of it. I just observe myself. Not easy for others. My point
was to see thought processes not as spiritual in the first place,
without making any prejudice about spirituality.
involving and affecting in a characteristic way instances of E77 Persistent
Item, brought about by some coherent physical, social or technological
phenomena. An instance of E5 Event may or may not
Only what *may* be affected, or *may not* be affected, somehow supports an
identity criterium. What may or may not be affected looks as irrelevant,
because we cannot understand from the consequences (or lack thereof) that some
event took place, leading to an observed change (or lack of change), because
the event may or may not have led to such change.
What I had in mind where things like a fever, or seeing a bird flying
by. I agree with you, but I did not say "may or may not affect"! I said
"may or may not be *permanent*". In archaeology, you need permanent
effects, but in history you may have witnesses of things that do not
leave other traces than memories. Isn't it?
lead
to relevant permanent changes of properties and relations of items involved in
it.
Properties and kinds of things that may be affected are characteristic for the
type of an event.
This is somehow contradictory with the previous statement: it states that there are
things that may be affected, and other things that may not; perhaps also a third
grouping that “may or may not". In all, it is a bit messy.
Again, no: If I have fever, my temperature etc. is affected. Normally,
not permanently. But having had fever during a meeting, may have had
affect on my performance. Isn't it?
Does that make sense:-)?
Cheers,
Martin
Franco
please comment!
Best,
Martin
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