I'm posting the following response text from Steve because the mailing list software tosses his messages out:
Just a quick thought. As you mention a set of individual performances (E7 Activities) you could say that the individual performances (E7 Activity: performance of Tango on particular day/time and at a particular place) P9i *forms part of* a master E7 Activity (All Tango Performances). E7 Activity (All Tango Performances) P16 *used specific object* E28 Conceptual Object(Intangible Heritage of the Tango). E7 Activity (All Tango Performances) P14 *carried out by* E39 Actor(Tango Community) You could also say: E28 Conceptual Object(Intangible Heritage of the Tango) P94i *was created by* E65 Creation P14 *carried out by* E39 Actor(Tango Community) This would make the community both the creator and performer of the intangible heritage: which I believe is the current "best practice". The timespan of the creation is of course open-ended as these are "living" traditions. HTH SdS On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 3:57 PM George Bruseker <george@takin.solutions> wrote: > I'd use the term 'forms of life' instead of 'intangible heritage'. Then > the likely closest CRM concept is E5 Event, at least if you want to be able > to associate to actors in any direct way. > > E5 Event "Tango" p11 had participant E74 Group. > > Probably to be more expressive one would need an extension for social life! > > On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 3:18 PM Christian-Emil Smith Ore via Crm-sig < > crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote: > >> It is a good question. Also note that documentation of intangible >> cultural heritage is in most cases ttangible. According to UNESCO >> intangible cultural heritage is defined as >> >> Article 2 – Definitions >> For the purposes of this Convention, >> 1. The “intangible cultural heritage” means the practices, >> representations, expressions, knowledge, skills – as well as the >> instruments, objects, artefacts and cultural spaces associated therewith – >> that communities, groups and, in some cases, individuals recognize as part >> of their cultural heritage. This intangible cultural heritage, transmitted >> from generation to generation, is constantly recreated by communities and >> groups in response to their environment, their interaction with nature and >> their history, and provides them with a sense of identity and continuity, >> thus promoting respect for cultural diversity and human creativity. For the >> purposes of this Convention, consideration will be given solely to such >> intangible cultural heritage as is compatible with existing international >> human rights instruments, as well as with the requirements of mutual >> respect among communities, groups and individuals, and of sustainable >> development. >> >> 2. The “intangible cultural heritage”, as defined in paragraph 1 above, >> is manifested inter alia in the following domains: >> (a) oral traditions and expressions, including language as a vehicle of >> the intangible cultural heritage; >> (b) performing arts; >> (c) social practices, rituals and festive events; >> (d) knowledge and practices concerning nature and the universe; >> (e) traditional craftsmanship. >> >> Best, >> Christian-Emil >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Crm-sig <crm-sig-boun...@ics.forth.gr> on behalf of Franco >> Niccolucci via Crm-sig <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> >> *Sent:* 09 March 2023 14:54 >> *To:* crm-sig >> *Subject:* [Crm-sig] Relation between E28 Conceptual Object and E74 Group >> >> In the UNESCO List of World Intangible Heritage many items (= E28 >> Conceptual Object) are referred to specific gatherings of people - commonly >> named “communities” in everyday's language - such as: >> >> Tango -> Argentina & Uruguay >> Rebetiko -> Greece >> Opera dei pupi (puppet theatre) -> Italy (Sicily) >> >> These geographic names in reality mean the people, the inhabitants (maybe >> not all of them): Argentinians, Uruguayos, Greeks, Sicilians i.e. the >> social groups who are the custodians/performers of these traditions. >> >> So two classes are involved >> 1) The group (Argentinians, Greeks, etc.) = E39 Actor >> 2) The conceptual object representing the intangible heritage (Tango, >> Rebetiko, etc.) = E28 Conceptual Object >> >> Note that intangibile heritage is NOT an activity, it is the abstraction >> of a set of activities and the way in which they are traditionally >> performed, which manifests through events/activities i.e. individual >> performances. >> >> Which property - if any - can be used to relate such E39 Actors to the >> corresponding E28? >> >> Thank you for any help on the above. >> >> Franco >> >> Prof. Franco Niccolucci >> Director, VAST-LAB >> PIN - U. of Florence >> President, ARIADNE Research Infrastructure AISBL >> Chief Technology Officer 4CH >> >> Editor-in-Chief >> ACM Journal of Computing and Cultural Heritage (JOCCH) >> >> Piazza Ciardi 25 >> 59100 Prato, Italy >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Crm-sig mailing list >> Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr >> http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig >> _______________________________________________ >> Crm-sig mailing list >> Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr >> http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig >> >
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