On Jul 30, 2013, at 6:13 AM, Konstantin Komissarchik 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> > so they are actually useful to end-users.
>  
> Actually, we have no evidence that users find packages useful. They download 
> them because what else is there for them to do. Then if they are experienced, 
> they know what’s included and how to install the missing pieces. If not, they 
> thrash on forums wondering why Eclipse for Java Developers doesn’t come with 
> an XML editor.

In the parallel computing community, we have plenty of evidence that the 
package is useful. We get lots of feedback that our all-in-one package is much 
preferred over having to install packages into Eclipse. Our users did this for 
years and it was a never ending source of complaints.

However, if the process was changed to downloading Eclipse, then when you first 
started Eclipse it displayed a screen that said something like "What would you 
like to use Eclipse for", then presented a list similar to the current list of 
packages, then our users would probably still be happy.

I wouldn't support the idea of creating a single download with the entire 
aggregated repository at all. Apart from being huge, it would contain many 
features that users would never use, but would add to the feature bloat and UI 
confusion. This is exactly the opposite of where we should be heading. Users 
have been saying for years that they want a simpler and more functional UI, so 
we should be focussing on how to make this happen.

Regards,
Greg
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