Out of curiosity, what were the blocking factors that prevented you to
download WTP in your existing install? My thinking is that if someone as
immersed as you with the Eclipse ecosystem can't figure this out, then
there may be something there as well.
On 07/30/2013 04:49 PM, Campo, Christian wrote:
The answer is simple. I downloaded 2 IDEs because currently there is
NO Ultimate.... Its NOT that I prefer 2 IDE installations
But your point about a bloated UI is worthwhile thinking about really.
Its in the same direction of Doug's and Martin's comment. About either
controlling the UI bloat or being able to switch from J2EE to RCP to
WTP in the same IDE without installing something new....
Von: Mickael Istria <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
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On 07/30/2013 04:19 PM, Campo, Christian wrote:
Maybe its also because I do a lot of RCP development and always
download the RCP packages for the Eclipse IDE. Recently I decided to
do some WTP stuff for myself. And the easiest way for me was to
download a WTP Eclipse IDE. So maybe you can say that I could have
downloaded some features from the Kepler repo. But I wasnt sure what
was necessary so I downloaded a new IDE. (Felt strange, but worked)
So after that I thought, maybe I would preferred an IDE that can do
"everything java" aka "ultimate"...
You usage of the IDE seems to show that even if you know it's possible
to have everything in the same IDE, you prefered to download a second
IDE and have an IDE for RCP and an IDE for Web applications development.
Your use-case seems opposed to what you're advocating for, so I'm
curious: If you did not find the value of creating a "utilmate IDE"
and prefered multiple IDEs, why do you think a "Ultimate" IDE would be
better.
Here is my story to advocate against a "Ultimate IDE": I used to have
much stuff in the same IDE for a few monthes, it contained my work
stuff (mainly RCP) and some entertainment stuff (WTP, JBoss Tools and
Android Dev Tools). My work tools and entertainment activities are not
related at all. One day, I got angry of having too much stuff in that
IDE and I spitted it because I used to get bugs coming from Android
Tools when doing some RCP work, and WTP was doing some extra
validation which was time consuming and because I was upset by many
menus that are irrelevant; and the other way round, I got a lot of
irrelevant noise and UI elements coming from PDE when doing to
Web/Android development. Since them, I'm much happier in both of these
activity-centric IDEs.
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Mickael Istria
Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat <http://www.jboss.org/tools>
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