I just realized that nearly all of the usage of the infinitive "to" were replaced with "too", my english teachers would be so disappointed. On Oct 8, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Mike Butler wrote:
> > Rob, > In response to the "fuddy-duddy, stick in the mud" statement, I think > that lament is a very real aspect to the Christian faith. Healthy > lament puts our our lives in constant perspective. The essence of > Lament is honesty before God and trusting that he is concerned with > the very real frustrations our lives produce. A majority of psalms > are laments, Jesus laments over the status of Israel in Matthew, not > too mention Paul's lament for Israel in Romans. While it must be > understood that we are not called to fixate on our pain, we are not > called to disregard it as insignificant and necessary. (Not that I am > arguing that this is your position :0 ) > In regards to Hallow's Eve, I think it is important to understand the > roots of the holiday and be able to articulate a conversation about > the purpose for it, not too mention All Saints day that follows. That > being said, I feel foolish dressing up, but that has more to do with > me be a "stick in the mud" and not because I am opposed to the > holiday. I do think it is dangerous to take kids out in and encourage > them to knock on a stranger's door for the sake of "candy". That > being said, I think there have been numerous churches, schools, and > local organizations who have created great opportunities for kids to > have fun and a place for adults to take them and feel at ease. Is > this an endorsement of witchcraft, sorcery, and dabbling in dark arts, > I don't think so. But I think this is because I am willing to > honestly talk with my kids about the motivation. To me it's like any > other form of entertainment, it gets out of hand, when we don't keep > it in check. > On Oct 8, 2008, at 10:31 AM, Rob L. wrote: > >> >> Follow me on this... >> We were discussing James 4:7-10 this week and one of the things that >> struck me was the admonition by James in 4:9 to lament and mourn and >> weep. Obviously there is some context and the conversation did get >> around to being sorrowful over sin and repentance. I started us out >> though by discussing how this seems a poor way to represent >> Christianity. I really don't like it when Christians come across us >> as fuddy-duddy sticks in the mud when really we are capable of having >> just as much, if not more fun than the world. >> So, this verse caught my eye. One of the topics that came up is >> Halloween and how many Christians want nothing to do with it. I am >> not judging this point of view if anyone has it and in fact respect >> and understand it. I laid out for the class Rob's theory of Holidays >> and thought it might garner some discussion here as well. >> Christmas and Easter have some pagan associations both with the >> timing >> of the holiday and some of the symbolism. I've always thought that >> the significance of the birth of Christ and the resurrection of >> Christ >> could not be eliminated/squelched/hushed-up by the forces of darkness >> so they used the strategy of misdirection (in the form of these pagan >> symbols) to minimize and trivialize the significance of these events. >> In kind of a reverse thought process I've kind of always thought that >> dressing up in costumes and handing out candy kind of trivialized and >> minimized the admittedly evil roots of Halloween. Plus! it's fun, >> and >> you know how we like to justify our fun. Just thought I'd solicit >> you >> alls thoughts - do you celebrate it? do you feel any guilt over this >> or are you at peace with it being a harmless childrens holiday? >> >> Rob >>> >> >> >> > > > > Mike Butler, Minister to College and Singles > CrossPointe Church > Happy are the Beggars > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Crosspointe Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/crosspointe-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
