+1. passive listener here. please stick with email! On 12/24/13, 4:58 PM, Bernie Cosell wrote: > On 24 Dec 2013 at 20:06, Raymond Burkholder wrote: > >>> Subject: [cryptography] Can we move to a forum, please? >>> Thoughts? >> >> If this moved to a forum, I'd probably not read it. I receive messages >> from >> many different services, and if I had to remember to go online to read >> messages, it wouldn't happen. > > I agree -- I don't have the time or care to go visit dozens of websites > each day, just to check if there's any activity in THIS forum or THAT > one. I find it very convenient having it all come to me. > >> With the current system, messages appear in my inbox with messages >> from >> other list exchanges. It provides a simple central mechanism for >> reading >> and responding to the various messages I receive. > > Also, for me, I'm on many mailing lists that are *related* and I sort > those into _single_ folders. So all of my 'security' stuff goes into > one place, all of the 'craft/hobby' lists are collected in a separate > place, etc. The fact that there are six hobby lists is irrelevant: they > all end up just in my 'hobby' folder -- I don't have to visit six sites. > > In fact, this is a case in point: there are two cryptography lists that > are similar but different. I filter them both into the same folder [and > my only quandry is if I want to post I need to pick "to which", but I > never have to do anything to follow both effortlessly]. > >> On the other hand, if the forum emailed messages with a 'reply link' >> as >> messages are posted, that would be an acceptable alternative. > > Not quite: Most forums postings don't any context -- they just expect > that their post will "follow next" in the forum [even when that's not > true!] and so they just type away. So if you get just an email message, > it'll be VERY cryptic trying to piece together what's going on, > especially if a single topic has two discussion threads interweaving > within in. > > I haven't seen a forum that lets you "save" messages -- if the new PHPbb > does that'd be great. PHPbb has never been very good at keeping track > of what you've seen and what you haven't: if you visit the forum and only > read some of the new posts, you generally won't get a second [easy] > chance to find it [there's no mechanism I've seen for the equivalent of > leaving something unread in your list-folder to be dealt with later]. Do > forums let you 'print' messages? Can you 'forward' messages? Can you > 'save/archive' threads that are particularly interesting? > > I happen to not much like the format of most online forums.... other folk > love them. I'm not impressed with 'BBcodes' and the few-score emoticons > it allows. I know some peolple really like that, but not me. > > My vote is to stay as an email list. > > /Bernie\ > >
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