On 2008/02/11 00:08 (GMT+1300) Michael Adams apparently typed:

> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:38:14 -0500

> Felix Miata wrote:

>> On 2008/02/10 11:35 (GMT+1300) Michael Adams apparently typed:

>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_fonts_for_the_Web

>> No distro I'm aware of installs them by default. There is no M$
>> software available for Linux that will automatically install them as
>> on a Mac. As a result, you can't expect them to be installed on Linux.

> Agreed to a certain point. Mint may install the core font set by
> default.

Mint's selling point is extras, but it's hardly dominating the established base 
of Linux systems. Debian, Fedora, Mandriva, SUSE & others have been around a 
lot longer, and they don't.

>> No need to take my word for it. See for yourself what can happen when
>> CSS specifies Helvetica on Linux:
>> http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/Fnt/font-helvetica-linux-072.png
>> http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/Fnt/font-helvetica-linux-096.png
>> http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/Fnt/font-helvetica-linux-120.png
>> http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/Fnt/font-helvetica-linux-144.png
>> http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/Fnt/font-helvetica-linuxmdv2005-096.png

>> All the above were shot on SUSE a couple years ago, but results were
>> essentially the same on other distros, including Fedora and Mandriva.

> I went back as far as i could for this test (Mozilla1.6 on Mandrake10.0
> circa 2004). 
> http://www.comptutor.org/mytest/font-test-helvetica.html
> http://www.comptutor.org/mytest/images/mozilla-helvetica.png

> Looks to me like your test was possibly reverting to a default
> bitmap system font because Helvetica was not installed.

If you do a closer analysis of your own test, examine under the covers of 
Mandrake 10 (/etc/fonts/fonts.conf), and study the updated 
http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Font/font-helvetica.html I think you'll find what 
looks like and you thought was Helvetica is in fact Nimbus Sans L via 
fontconfig aliasing.
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