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YnrChyldzWyld wrote:

> Now you're changing your tune...your initial objection was that all
> Indians just got by with foraging and gathering,

I made the mistake of generalizing.. Hell, I'm sure SOME Indian,
somewhere, was
probably a real estate agent.

> and didn't farm...when that fallacy was pointed out, you now decide
that
> 'manufacturing' is to be the new standard...

Look.. My point was not to criticize the Indians... The point was that
they were at
best poor entrepreneurs nor producers of excess "whatever they produced"
in order to
amass any capital.  I should have prefaced my remarks with "In general,"
or "To a large
extent," etc etc... It was my mistake.

> The Inca, Mayans, and Toltecs seem to have been able to 'manufacture'
> some pretty sophisticated objects...

I don't think the "founding fathers" of the USA had much contact with
them, and did not
intend that they be included in the discussion.

> >Oh, so our concept of govm't was derived from the Iroquois
Confederacy?
>
> Again, it's a MATTER OF RECORD.

Whatever....  If you want to believe that our system of government was
derived from the
Iroquois, go ahead... It probably is a harmless enough thing to
believe... about the
same as the "fact" that Africans invented the airplane and telegraph.

> I never said any such thing...I said the INDIANS were farmers and
> fishers...

No... You were speaking of the Europeans...

> the Europeans who first came here in the 1600s were for the most part
pretty
> middleclass, more merchants than farmers...

Middleclass has nothing to do with farming ability..

Hawk

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