-Caveat Lector-
Squawk:
Come on; you've gotta be yanking our chain! Nobody can play the role of
list idiot this well without formal training in theater!
Tell the truth, Squawk. You're really one of those liberal arts, bohemian
types from Berkeley working on a paper. We're your thesis, right?
Fess up.
Edward ><>
>
>> Now you're changing your tune...your initial objection was that all
>> Indians just got by with foraging and gathering,
>
>I made the mistake of generalizing.. Hell, I'm sure SOME Indian,
>somewhere, was
>probably a real estate agent.
>
>> and didn't farm...when that fallacy was pointed out, you now decide
>that
>> 'manufacturing' is to be the new standard...
>
>Look.. My point was not to criticize the Indians... The point was that
>they were at
>best poor entrepreneurs nor producers of excess "whatever they produced"
>in order to
>amass any capital. I should have prefaced my remarks with "In general,"
>or "To a large
>extent," etc etc... It was my mistake.
>
>> The Inca, Mayans, and Toltecs seem to have been able to 'manufacture'
>> some pretty sophisticated objects...
>
>I don't think the "founding fathers" of the USA had much contact with
>them, and did not
>intend that they be included in the discussion.
>
>> >Oh, so our concept of govm't was derived from the Iroquois
>Confederacy?
>>
>> Again, it's a MATTER OF RECORD.
>
>Whatever.... If you want to believe that our system of government was
>derived from the
>Iroquois, go ahead... It probably is a harmless enough thing to
>believe... about the
>same as the "fact" that Africans invented the airplane and telegraph.
>
>> I never said any such thing...I said the INDIANS were farmers and
>> fishers...
>
>No... You were speaking of the Europeans...
>
>> the Europeans who first came here in the 1600s were for the most part
>pretty
>> middleclass, more merchants than farmers...
>
>Middleclass has nothing to do with farming ability..
>
>Hawk
>
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