-Caveat Lector-
>
> > and didn't farm...when that fallacy was pointed out, you now decide
> that
> > 'manufacturing' is to be the new standard...
>
> Look.. My point was not to criticize the Indians... The point was that
> they were at
> best poor entrepreneurs nor producers of excess "whatever they produced"
> in order to
> amass any capital. I should have prefaced my remarks with "In general,"
> or "To a large
> extent," etc etc... It was my mistake.
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So what of the fact that they avoided excess? Are you championing waste?
Excess is useful if you wish to have leverage AGAINST someone, else it is
given away.
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>
> > The Inca, Mayans, and Toltecs seem to have been able to 'manufacture'
> > some pretty sophisticated objects...
>
> I don't think the "founding fathers" of the USA had much contact with
> them, and did not
> intend that they be included in the discussion.
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What has this to do with whether or not they were capable of such?
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>
> > >Oh, so our concept of govm't was derived from the Iroquois
> Confederacy?
> >
> > Again, it's a MATTER OF RECORD.
>
> Whatever.... If you want to believe that our system of government was
> derived from the
> Iroquois, go ahead... It probably is a harmless enough thing to
> believe... about the
> same as the "fact" that Africans invented the airplane and telegraph.
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You sound like Clinton's press secretary - changing subjects in hopes of
preying on the slow minded. There are few of those here.
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>
> > I never said any such thing...I said the INDIANS were farmers and
> > fishers...
>
> No... You were speaking of the Europeans...
>
> > the Europeans who first came here in the 1600s were for the most part
> pretty
> > middleclass, more merchants than farmers...
>
> Middleclass has nothing to do with farming ability..
>
> Hawk
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