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"Hilary A. Thomas" wrote:
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nurev Ind Research <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Friday, January 07, 2000 8:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay
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> > -Caveat Lector-
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> >"Hilary A. Thomas" wrote:
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> >> -Caveat Lector-
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Nurev Ind Research <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: Thursday, January 06, 2000 3:38 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay
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> >> > -Caveat Lector-
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> >> >"Hilary A. Thomas" wrote:
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> >> >> -Caveat Lector-
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: A.C. Szul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 12:03 AM
> >> >> Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay
> >> >>
> >> >> >> According to many economic and business indicators, more people
> today
> >> are
> >> >> better off financially
> >> >> >> than ever before.
> >> >>
> >> >> One of the reasons that the economy is doing so well is that people
> are
> >> >> spending more money than they make. A large percentage of the US
> >> population
> >> >> owes a significant amount of money (usually credit cards). This is a
> >> >> situation that will implode at some point. What happened to the
> concept
> >> of
> >> >> "cash and carry?"
> >> >>
> >> >> Hilary
> >> >
> >> >Cash and carry was much too limiting to satisfy the astonishing greed of
> >> the
> >> >capitalists. Cash and carry was simply not an efficient enough system to
> >> >transfer
> >> >money from everyone to the rich. That is why everything moved to credit.
> >> With
> >> >credit, the capitalists could reach into your future to extract wealth.
> It
> >> >doesn't even matter if the system becomes unstable or even destroyed.
> Greed
> >> >is easily satisfied by short term gratification. If society falls apart,
> >> what
> >> >the hell do the rich care! They have enough of a wealth buffer to
> survive.
> >> >
> >> >Joshua2
> >>
> >> That may be the plan for all those rich, evil capitalists, but they are
> not
> >> the ones in debt. It's individual choice to spend more money than one
> gets
> >> paid not those nasty suits. Responsibility and accountability. If we
> are
> >> demanding these qualities from our political leaders than we too have to
> own
> >> up to our stuff. I'm not dumping on you Joshua, it just bugs me when I
> hear
> >> everything blamed on big hairy corporations.
> >>
> >> Hilary
> >
> >But is is the fault of the Big Hairy Corporations. Under a capitalist
> system
> >corporations overproduce. Easy credit allows people to spend what they
> don't
> >have to buy stuff that they don't need because corporations NEED to get rid
> >of their stuff. That includes loans.
>
> Well, do you NEED all that stuff?
No you don't. You don't need a car every two or three years. You don't need
new clothes every fashion season. You don't need the latest crappy software
from Microsoft every time they put out an upgrade. You don't need Pokemon
cards. You don't need new music cd's. You don't need movies, or sports, or
night clubs. There are many things we don't need. BUT...we are brainwashed by
constant, ubiquitous advertising day in, day out, year after year. EVERYWHERE.
> >While it is ultimately true that the decision to buy on credit is made by
> >the individual, it is unfair to shift the blame to the borrower/buyer
> because
> >corporations ADVERTISE constantly. This is like putting a bottle in front
> of
> >an alcoholic and blaming him for getting drunk.
>
> Oh please. Are you so helpless that you can't stop spending money on stuff
> you don't need or can't afford? Show a little backbone!
I personally am the wrong person to say that to. In my family we have a rule
that says - if it's advertised on TV we don't buy it. My kids don't even ask
for the shitty toys they see on TV anymore. They get plenty of things they want,
but not due to corporate exploitation of children.
In our home, we MUST mute all commercials. This is a great technique for
counteracting corporate mind control. After a short while, you can't stand to
hear commercials, even at someone else's home.
> >Face it Hillary. The system sucks big time
>
> Of course the system sucks big time, but everytime you fork over a dollar to
> an undeserving company you hand over your power. Buisness lesson 101 - NO
> buisness can survive if they cannot sell their product. Really, I'm not
> making this stuff up.
No argument from me.
> >and soon we Americans will pay the price that the rest of the world has
> been paying for many years.
>
> This very well may be true.
>
> >The source of all evil are the Rich elites.
>
> Yes, yes, yes. It's everyone else's fault.
Yes actually it is. I didn't design our society to function this way, but
someone else did. There is very little freedom of choice in this country.
Economically AND politically. This is no accident. Capitalism REQUIRES control
of everything by the Rich. Otherwise they would have to compete in the market
and the political arena. Capitalism is the system devised by the Rich, FOR the
Rich. If you are not rich, it's only a matter of time before it damages you.
Americans need to understand this. The choice is not Capitalism or Socialism.
The choice is open. We as citizens can design a system which benefits US. But
this won't happen as long as the Rich are running things, because they LOVE the
system that makes them richer and more powerful. If that system keeps people
poor, stupid, unhealthy, uneducated, criminal, and violent, what the heck! It's
not THEIR problem.
> And no, I'm not one of the
> Rich. I count my pennies like everyone else. I just don't whine about it.
>
> Hilary
What exactly do you do about it???
Joshua2
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