-Caveat Lector- John 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. John 10:18 NO MAN taketh it from me, but I lay it down OF MYSELF. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. --- inri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > > > it was > > > obviously *not* "nazi assholes" that nailed > christ up to the cross. > > > > It was the ROMANS. Crucifixion was a ROMAN > punishment given for treason > > against the ROMAN empire. Going after the "Jewish" > authorities who were > > in bed with Rome at the time, would have been > cause enough. > > the romans had no problem with jesus; in fact, they > really liked the guy - > he told everybody to pay taxes and be good citizens. > it was the jewish > leaders that requested he be crucified as he was, by > definition, a heretic; > and the punishment for heresy was death. the romans > only went along with it > in order to prevent a revolt; pilate didn't wash his > hands because he fell > in the mud. > > > > nazism > > > is born out of the christian tradition of > anti-semitism, > > > > Nazism is pagan, not Christian. > > http://www.sasquatch.com/~kory/occult_roots.html > > the "arians are supreme" part of nazism is pagan; > the "semites are plotting > to destroy us" part is the result of hundreds of > years of bigotry pushed, > originally, by the vatican. personally, i'm not > entirely convinced that > hitler or the neo-pagans in charge actually > *believed* any of their > anti-jewish tripe; either way, it was used by > hitler's bosses as a means to > bring out long standing societal prejudices and > brainwash the people into > complete subservience. "you're starving and > desperate.....who do you blame? > the jews! give us supreme power and we'll get rid of > all of them! only then > will you be fed and comfortable.". bullshit, of > course........but it worked > because europe *already* had strong anti-semitic > feelings hidden away under > the carpet: feelings that were the result of vatican > propaganda resulting > from the circumstances around the death of christ. > > > brought upon > > > by > > > ridiculous conclusions stemming from the > historical fact that christ > > > was > > > killed by a mob of fundamentalist jews. > > > > Again, Jews who were in bed with the ROMANS. > > the romans were never concerned with the internal > workings of their > provinces; they allowed everything from independant > currency to religious > freedom. they merely desired taxes and a place for > their citizens to worship > when they happened to drop by. given this, i'm not > entirely sure what your > point is: true, rome chose to associate itself with > those willing to > associate with it; but i'm failing to see how this > changes the historical > fact that jesus was crucified primarily because he > was seen as a threat to > the continuing existence of the jewish aristocracy, > which held supreme power > solely through religious subjugation. > > >At the time, the high > > priest was ROMAN-appointed. > > yet widely despised. > > > Judea was under ROMAN occupation, not > > rising up until 66 A.D. in the first Jewish > revolt. > > roman occupation, yes. yet, truly, not under roman > control. > > pop question: who led the first revolt? > > inri > np: > > http://chat.carleton.ca/~jparent2/ > > "there ought to be limits to freedom" - george w. > bush > "if this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a > lot easier, just so long > as i'm the dictator." - george w. bush > "i'm not going to let congress erode the power of > the executive branch" - > george w. bush > > <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org</A> > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > ========== > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. > Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. 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