-Caveat Lector- > Hello, > Sorry for chiming in here, but a couple of points. One, this is a very nice > sentiment that Jesus was a groovy, hip, make love not war kind of guy that > became misrepresented. I like that. However, point 2 is that he is and has > always been a myth.
well, sorry to cut your post off like this, but i dunno about that. i'm no theist, and i certainly wouldn't call myself a christian, but can it not be proven that jesus was a real person that existed [through roman tax records]? i'm not referring to the census given as an excuse for him being born in bethlehem instead of nazareth; i'm quite certain that this information is out there from some tax record when he was a young adult. the fact that i can't seem to locate a source is not helping me. anybody know what the hell i'm talking about? of course, it could always be argued that they were forged. i look at jesus more as a....well....a daniel boone type character, where stories are created around the person due to awe and admiration. who knows, if we ever go through a nuclear war then maybe when the people emerge they'll stumble upon data [electronic or, maybe, from a half destroyed library] describing george washington as a super human that can throw a rock across potomac bay, and, thus, assume him to be myth. but, we all know him to have existed. i *am* definately suspicious, and i take very little of what is in either testament at face value......but i don't see how you can flat out declare his existence to be a myth. i mean, how many sources are there *really* that prove that....i dunno....ramses II existed? alexander the great? that the pelopponesian war happened? maybe one or two or three at most. yet we take this as historical fact, even though it's probably quite embellished. the scriptures may not be a good source of real historical happenings, but they're good enough to prove that the guy actually lived as far as i'm concerned.... inri np: http://chat.carleton.ca/~jparent2/ "there ought to be limits to freedom" - george w. bush "if this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as i'm the dictator." - george w. bush "i'm not going to let congress erode the power of the executive branch" - george w. bush <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html <A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om