On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:47:05AM +0100 I heard the voice of Aaron Sloman, and lo! it spake thus: > > It turns out that monotone also loses the information.
This isn't really accurate. It's all there (as it would have to be, to fulfill its purpose), it just doesn't set mtime on the files. And it shouldn't a VCS doing that is bogus for various reasons (the most obvious being that it screws up make). > ...if you know what 'vcs' is, which I don't -- Sorry! <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Version_control_system> It sounds like you're thinking of mtn as if it were something like a FTP client (or FTP server, depending). It's not really for downloading or dealing with files; as a VCS, its meant to deal with _history_. You didn't download the files, you downloaded the whole[0] history of the ctwm project. It's a side effect of that, that you can checkout the tree as it existed at any arbitrary point of its history (specifically, you checked it out as of the latest change that's been checked in, which at the moment is an adjustment to OpaqueResizeThreshold I made in June). There isn't any "3.9-devel" release or snapshot to download, that's just what every revision since the 3.8a release was made calls itself, since it has to call itself SOMEthing. Trying to talk about all the ways of examining history would be way out of place here, but the simplest is just 'mtn log', which gives you a log of the changes to the project. 'mtn log $FILE' lets you limit to a single file. Various args to 'mtn diff' let you look at the specific changes made in a [set of] revision[s], maybe limited to a single file. Et cetera. Hitting the mtn docs would be the place for details. > I had hoped that the standard specification would simply determine a > list of operations required, which could be installed without read > any code that will invoke them. But perhaps EWMH is not clear enough > for that. I haven't looked at it. Well, it may. I've only glanced at it. But it's a huge list; it's likely that only one or two of the properties are important here. [0] Not really; any revision history prior to using mtn (or maybe CVS before that; I'm not sure how much Richard imported) isn't in the repo, though it does have very coarse-grained release imports back to ctwm 1.1. But close enough. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fulle...@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream.
