"Matthew D. Fuller" <fulle...@over-yonder.net> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:11:03PM +0100 I heard the voice of > Dave, and lo! it spake thus: > > > > Anyone got any pointers on what is causing flash to get annoyed with > > ctwm in this way? > > I s'pose the most likely thing is that it's trying to ask the WM some > question, and ctwm doesn't give it an answer. I know, that's probably > too specific... :) > > The Extended Window Manager Hints spec[0] is probably the most likely > place to find something it's trying for that ctwm lacks. I seem to recall seeing something which pointed in that direction several months ago. But I lacked the expertise (and time) to follow it up. > One way to > check that would be to try with fvwm (2.4.x) and see if it still > fails, then try with EWMH-enabled fvwm > (http://fvwm-ewmh.sourceforge.net/ or 2.5). That would give you a > quick touchstone as to whether the issue is likely to lie there. When considering alternatives to ctwm, and before I settled on Openbox, I briefly tried a recent version of fvwm (default version for Fedora) and full screen flash worked OK. I suspect it was fvwm 2.5 (the current version on my F10 machine is fvwm-2.5.26-2.fc10.i386). That implies that something like the code required for full screen flash is in recent versions of fvwm. I don't know if it would be straightforward for a C programmer (which I am not!) to port the relevant bit of code to ctwm. > > Is there a repository of the patches which have been made since the > > last release? > > You can get them out of the monotone repository. Where is that? Google gives no information about a repository with anything later than 3.8a. Neither does the cwtm page, as far as I can tell. > There's a blurb on > the page about pulling down a copy. I've attached a quick&dirty slice > of the log since the ctwm-3.8a tag. I recently found this, while searching for an update on ctwm: http://tigerdyr.wheel.dk/ctwm-archive/2147.html It mentions "the latest update of ctwm (3.9devel)" > From: Richard Levitte <richard_at_levitte.org> > Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:03:42 +0100 (CET) > > In message <20090106155024.GA26649_at_fermat.math.technion.ac.il> on > Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:50:24 +0200, "Nadav Har'El" > <nyh_at_math.technion.ac.il> said: > > nyh> Recently I upgraded my Linux system from Fedora 7 to Fedora 10. > nyh> One of the changes which annoyed me was that suddenly, > nyh> full-screen-mode mplayer (mplayer -fs) no longer worked, and just > nyh> showed a small window as usual. I looked at all the "usual > nyh> suspects" (nvidia driver, xorg, XVideo extension, etc.) but none > nyh> of those seemed to be broken. > nyh> > nyh> Finally, I found the real problem: full-screen mode in recent > nyh> versions of mplayer does not work on ctwm (3.8a) :( > > What version is that? I used the following mplayer package for > Debian > with the latest update of ctwm (3.9devel): > > : ; apt-show-versions mplayer > mplayer/unstable uptodate 1:1.0.rc2svn20080706-0.1 > > I have none of your problems... > > Not trying to invalidate your experience, mind. I'm just trying to > see what we're up against and why. Also, I think you'll find mplayer > defaults in /etc/mplayer, maybe there are things you should look > into > there... > > Cheers, > Richard > > -- > Richard Levitte richard_at_levitte.org However, no amount of searching with google led to any other information about "ctwm (3.9devel)" and where to get it. I concluded it must be something specific to Debian, which I don't use, so gave up. The latest version I have been able to find is 3.8a, which I was using before I switched. As far as I can tell the official ctwm page http://ctwm.free.lp.se/ was last modified on Fri Mar 30 00:03:44 2007 It contains a link to a debian ctwl cite, which is broken: http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/ctwm.html Does Richard read messages from this list? Aaron http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~axs