> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Vasily Kolobkov < > polezaivs...@openmailbox.org> wrote: > > A tor fork ran in part by @jmprcx (aka @jmpedx), former infantry > > man with a background in offensive software backdooring [1] and who > > knows whom else?! Thanks, but no, thanks. > > > > [1] http://livestream.com/internetsociety3/hopeconf/videos/130717710
On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 12:34:53AM +0200, Jelena Jovanovic wrote: > Thats malicious intepretation. Knowing about backdoors is excellent for > weeding them out from libraries, dont you think? > What makes you think same knowledge cannot be used to start the abandoned > branch of Tor successfully. Also, I find examples of intent to being honest, open, and up front about who we are, much more useful, for both "a sense of real community with real people" as well as facilitating others to make informed choices "hey, if you don't like me, no probs, I ain't hiding who I am and I support your choice". The alternative causes those who wish to sincerely and honourably contribute to a community, but who might be 'rejected' by some, to hide who they are. Those who hide may have a genuine reason to hide - like "ex" CIA agents who stopped working for the CIA literally the day prior to applying to work for Tor Inc (to pick one utterly random and unrelated example). The issue with Tor Inc and their CIA employs (and throwing out their entire board of directors and including one token "publicly perceived as plausibly honest" "good guy" Bruce Schneier), is that they are wielding centralised power, and a lot of it (dir auths, most coding and code review, veto power (by never developing certain) over particularly significant anti-GPA enhancements to Tor. When we have Dingledine and co "wanting to make Tor Inc a comfortable place to work for ex-CIA" yet supports the lynching of the one outlier who opposed this (Jacob Applebaum), we have a serious problem, and those at Tor Inc are "lacking self awareness" of the problem, or ultimately compromised (by their dependence on wages or other compromises). Distributing the development of privacy tecnologies is an excellent thing. Being aware of who you are placing trust in, is another excellent thing. Not trusting those undeserving of your trust is a wise thing. Good luck,