On 08/27/2016 07:20 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 8:12 PM, Vasily Kolobkov < >> polezaivs...@openmailbox.org> wrote: >>> A tor fork ran in part by @jmprcx (aka @jmpedx), former infantry >>> man with a background in offensive software backdooring [1] and who >>> knows whom else?! Thanks, but no, thanks. >>> >>> [1] http://livestream.com/internetsociety3/hopeconf/videos/130717710 > > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 12:34:53AM +0200, Jelena Jovanovic wrote: >> Thats malicious intepretation. Knowing about backdoors is excellent for >> weeding them out from libraries, dont you think? >> What makes you think same knowledge cannot be used to start the abandoned >> branch of Tor successfully. > > Also, I find examples of intent to being honest, open, and up front > about who we are, much more useful, for both "a sense of real community > with real people" as well as facilitating others to make informed > choices "hey, if you don't like me, no probs, I ain't hiding who I am > and I support your choice". > > The alternative causes those who wish to sincerely and honourably > contribute to a community, but who might be 'rejected' by some, to hide > who they are. > > Those who hide may have a genuine reason to hide - like "ex" CIA agents > who stopped working for the CIA literally the day prior to applying to > work for Tor Inc (to pick one utterly random and unrelated example). > > The issue with Tor Inc and their CIA employs (and throwing out their > entire board of directors and including one token "publicly perceived as > plausibly honest" "good guy" Bruce Schneier), is that they are wielding > centralised power, and a lot of it (dir auths, most coding and code > review, veto power (by never developing certain) over particularly > significant anti-GPA enhancements to Tor. > > When we have Dingledine and co "wanting to make Tor Inc a comfortable > place to work for ex-CIA" yet supports the lynching of the one outlier > who opposed this (Jacob Applebaum), we have a serious problem, and those > at Tor Inc are "lacking self awareness" of the problem, or ultimately > compromised (by their dependence on wages or other compromises). > > Distributing the development of privacy tecnologies is an excellent > thing. > > Being aware of who you are placing trust in, is another excellent thing. > > Not trusting those undeserving of your trust is a wise thing. > > Good luck, >
I tend to be more trusting of process than of people. If the process is open and the license is ok i generally hope the product will be ok. ...but see how well that worked in OpenBSD with the IsaKMP hole being programmed into it with a variable being set to zero. (but i am showing my age.) --- Marina
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