Hi,
that is interesting ... but isn't DT trusting its DB first and and second
the xmp?
DB needs to be copied as well otherwise you wouldn't see a change after
being back.


Marc




2016-05-20 10:45 GMT+02:00 Christian Mandel <c.man...@gmx.net>:

> Am 20.05.2016 um 10:23 schrieb Dr. Marc Arnold Bach:
>
>> Hi,
>> I am trying to fit my workflow to me personal needs.
>>
>> I have for desired  workpattern:
>>
>> A) I use a weak laptop to import fotos, to sort them, tag them, rate them
>> in the livingroom.
>>
>> B) I go downstairs using a powerful PC with better display to work with DT
>> RAW modules or Gimp
>>
>> C) I am offsite, somewhere far away and cannot await to work with newly
>> taken raws... I task A and start B with bad performance on a laptop. Later
>> I import the results together with untouched pics to central archive and
>> maybe start A and B again.
>>
>> D) I create local copies on the laptop of old raws and take them with me.
>> work qwith them maybe together with workflow C's new pictures.. Later I
>> update the sidecars and home-DB be importing again.
>>
>>
>> A and B are done:
>> To be able to work with a Laptop and PC on same data I decided to put pics
>> and DB to a SAMBA share an a fast fileserver in my house. I mount the
>> filesystem with the current machine, all changes are in the NAS, DB is
>> fine... If I unmount and boot other machine it will find same DB, same
>> raws, same paths...
>>
>>
>> C and D are tricky...  having DB on a disconnected network, darktable is
>> not starting because the mountpoint folder /mnt/fotos is owned by root =<
>> readonly.
>> no DB can be created, it crashes..
>>
>> Even if I would create a local DB, discard it after a while and would
>> import the raws + sidecars at home again.... how to deal with local
>> copies?
>>
>> I cannot believe that I am the only one in the world with the purpose to
>> use a laptop offline and being in sync with a local workstation with
>> access
>> to an advanced storage solution to get a centralized backup.
>>
>> A professional takes pics of employees somewhere, shows first results to
>> customer, plays around in train with files to use the time. Arrives at
>> home, rates in the garden and later after kids are in bed he is using
>> workstation to finish the job...
>>
>> Lightroom (what I used before) was unflexible as well but at least it was
>> supporting a DB per filmrole and did not insist that each folder is a
>> separat filmrole...
>> in exchange it rejected network based DBs and was slow.
>>
>> Any ideas?  Using sidecars as info provider is possible but really slow...
>> I would need a DB sync of a local and central one...
>>
>
> Darktable has limited support for editing “detached” files. However, the
> complex workflow that you describe may require a system that can resemble
> this work flow. I suggest to have a look at
> http://git-annex.branchable.com/. Of course this is an xmp-based
> workflow, but I would guess you have no other option. With git-annex, you
> could have your sidecars version-controlled in git and the raws and output
> files (also version-controlled) in git-annex. This is kind of a seamless
> integration. Git-annex can care about distributing your files among your
> devices and you can do things like copying a bunch of files for editing
> during a travel and let the system put them back later. All of your files
> will always be visible to dt on all devices, but if file contents are tried
> to access but are not there, the system will try to get them from wherever
> a duplicate of the file lies. It can therefore as well access several cloud
> providers and can store files encrypted.
>
> I always wanted to give it a try for photo management but I never had the
> time, and I have only one computer, so it is enough for me to have the xmp
> files in a git.
>
> One could dream about darktable interacting smarter with changed xmp
> files, git and git-annex, if you have some programming skills you could try
> using the internal lua scripting e.g. to commit new versions into git
> whenever a xmp file is written. I always wanted to try this but I have very
> limited time constraints at the moment and very limited programming skills
> as well.
>
> Best regards
>
> Chris
>
>
> Currently I only can think about using DT in a separate offline account and
>> copy sidecars arround.....
>>
>> Regards
>> Marc
>>
>>
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