Hi!

Yes, I've noticed the same thing. It would be nice, that when you import a
folder, darktable would recognize also the additional xmp files.

-Juha

On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 20:52, Benjamin Daines <ben@digitalsand.photography>
wrote:

> Don't get hung up on the example file names I used in the email. The issue
> that I'm having is with the database "disabled" darktable does not
> recognize additional versions of images that are created (via clicking
> duplicate in darktable, which creates a second xmp file for the image).
> What's worse is when you open the folder in darktable after closing it, not
> only is the version you've created gone, but if you create the second
> version again DT immediately overwrites the second xmp file.
>
> Hopefully that makes more sense.
>
> On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 11:50 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
>
> * Benjamin Daines <
>
> ben@digitalsand.photography
>
> > [04-07-19 11:04]:
>
> Importing the folder doesn't recognize versions either unfortunately.
>
> On Sat, 2019-04-06 at 13:54 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
>
> * Benjamin Daines <
>
> ben@digitalsand.photography
>
> > [04-06-19 12:51]:
>
> The issue I'm running into now, with database=:memory: is that if
>
> I'veduplicated an image so that I've got two xmp files for the same
>
> image(say IMG1.xmp and IMG1_01.xmp), when I close the folder and
>
> open itagain, DT only reads the initial image, not the second
>
> version.  If Ithen create a new version, DT immediately overwrites
>
> IMG1_01.xmp, sounless I've copied all my xmp files to a
>
> subdirectory, that work islost.  It would be best to have darktable
>
> automatically create these versionswhen seeing IMG_01.xmp.
>
> Hopefully that makes sense. On Tue, 2019-04-02 at 07:20 +0300, Juha
>
> Lintula wrote:
>
> Hi!I also use darktable only for image processing and have the
>
> samesetting as Robert; database=:memory: This setting will
>
> alwaysautomatically read the .xmp files as you are always
>
> starting with afresh database.
>
> -Juha
>
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 05:20, Patrick Shanahan <
>
> p...@opensuse.org
>
> >
>
> wrote:
>
> * I. Ivanov <
>
> iv3...@gmail.com
>
> > [04-01-19 20:03]:
>
> On 2019-04-01 16:34, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
>
> * Benjamin Daines <
>
> ben@digitalsand.photography
>
> > [04-01-19
>
> 18:46]:
>
> In my workflow I find myself using multiple machines to
>
> work
>
> on the
>
> same images.  My configuration right now on both machines
>
> is
>
> to have DT
>
> look for updated xmp files on start up and that seems to
>
> work
>
> pretty
>
> well.  I usually just ignore the window that pops up to
>
> tell
>
> me about
>
> newer xmp files, unless the ones that I'm about to work
>
> on
>
> are listed,
>
> then I select those and let it update the database.
>
> However, there have been some situations where my
>
> previous
>
> work has
>
> been wiped out when opening a folder on another machine.
>
> Because of
>
> this, I now habitually copy all my xmp files to a
>
> subfolder
>
> after
>
> working on them in order to keep a back up, just in
>
> case.
>
> Occasionally
>
> I need to manually load these sidecar files.
>
> Would an option to disable darktable's database and use
>
> just
>
> the xmp
>
> files be a feasible option?  How about using something
>
> like
>
> syncthing
>
> (Linux platform here) to keep the database synced between
>
> multiple
>
> machines?  Would doing that cause any foreseeable issues?
>
> How are other people dealing with using multiple machines
>
> to
>
> work onprojects, any tips?
>
> when I use any machine beside my main workstation to edit
>
> photos, I issue
>
> darktable as:
>
>    darktable --library :memory:
>
>    import the photos to be edited
>
>    finish the edits
>
>    close dt
>
> and back at my workstation, re-import the edited photos
>
> with
>
> their
>
> accompanying xmp files.
>
> have not encountered any problems with this work plan.
>
> In theory... if you have 2 identical machines (for example
>
> linux)
>
> shared network location for DT files
>
> shared network location for the DB, configuration files and
>
> cache
>
> same mounting point for the 2 machines
>
> you could use DT on one or the other (one at a time) and the
>
> changes should
>
> be on the 2 machines.
>
> BUT... I haven't tested the scenario please back up if you
>
> want
>
> to try it.
>
> On the other hand - what Patrick is pointing to is based on
>
> experience.
>
>
>
> IF, IF, IF you NEVER run dt at the same time on different
>
> machines,one
>
> could share the db placing it on networked storage.  BUT NEVER
>
> RUNDT ON
>
> TWO MACHINES AT THE SAME TIME.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> try instead, to import the image instead of just reading the xmp
>
> file.  Ihave not seen that happen to me and I do have duplicate
>
> images withdifferent crops.  it appears your dup images are not being
>
> created withthe same filenames reflected by your oddly number xmp
>
> files.  but ...
>
>
>
>
> versions of what?
>
>
> importing an image not in dt's db will utilize the acompanying xmp.
>
>
> you have something irregular wrt your filename and accompanying xmp files.
>
> if the filenames to the xmp files do not match, iiuc, the xmp is not
>
> relevant, ie: not utilized.  you appear to be defeating the very action
>
> you wish to utilize.
>
>
>

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