* Juha Lintula <juha.v.lint...@gmail.com> [04-07-19 15:06]:
> Hi!
> 
> Yes, I've noticed the same thing. It would be nice, that when you import a
> folder, darktable would recognize also the additional xmp files.
> 
> -Juha
> 
> On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 20:52, Benjamin Daines <ben@digitalsand.photography>
> wrote:
> 
> > Don't get hung up on the example file names I used in the email. The issue
> > that I'm having is with the database "disabled" darktable does not
> > recognize additional versions of images that are created (via clicking
> > duplicate in darktable, which creates a second xmp file for the image).
> > What's worse is when you open the folder in darktable after closing it, not
> > only is the version you've created gone, but if you create the second
> > version again DT immediately overwrites the second xmp file.
> >
> > Hopefully that makes more sense.
> >
> > On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 11:50 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> >
> > * Benjamin Daines <
> >
> > ben@digitalsand.photography
> >
> > > [04-07-19 11:04]:
> >
> > Importing the folder doesn't recognize versions either unfortunately.
> >
> > On Sat, 2019-04-06 at 13:54 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> >
> > * Benjamin Daines <
> >
> > ben@digitalsand.photography
> >
> > > [04-06-19 12:51]:
> >
> > The issue I'm running into now, with database=:memory: is that if
> >
> > I'veduplicated an image so that I've got two xmp files for the same
> >
> > image(say IMG1.xmp and IMG1_01.xmp), when I close the folder and
> >
> > open itagain, DT only reads the initial image, not the second
> >
> > version.  If Ithen create a new version, DT immediately overwrites
> >
> > IMG1_01.xmp, sounless I've copied all my xmp files to a
> >
> > subdirectory, that work islost.  It would be best to have darktable
> >
> > automatically create these versionswhen seeing IMG_01.xmp.
> >
> > Hopefully that makes sense. On Tue, 2019-04-02 at 07:20 +0300, Juha
> >
> > Lintula wrote:
> >
> > Hi!I also use darktable only for image processing and have the
> >
> > samesetting as Robert; database=:memory: This setting will
> >
> > alwaysautomatically read the .xmp files as you are always
> >
> > starting with afresh database.
> >
> > -Juha
> >
> > On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 05:20, Patrick Shanahan <
> >
> > p...@opensuse.org
> >
> > >
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > * I. Ivanov <
> >
> > iv3...@gmail.com
> >
> > > [04-01-19 20:03]:
> >
> > On 2019-04-01 16:34, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> >
> > * Benjamin Daines <
> >
> > ben@digitalsand.photography
> >
> > > [04-01-19
> >
> > 18:46]:
> >
> > In my workflow I find myself using multiple machines to
> >
> > work
> >
> > on the
> >
> > same images.  My configuration right now on both machines
> >
> > is
> >
> > to have DT
> >
> > look for updated xmp files on start up and that seems to
> >
> > work
> >
> > pretty
> >
> > well.  I usually just ignore the window that pops up to
> >
> > tell
> >
> > me about
> >
> > newer xmp files, unless the ones that I'm about to work
> >
> > on
> >
> > are listed,
> >
> > then I select those and let it update the database.
> >
> > However, there have been some situations where my
> >
> > previous
> >
> > work has
> >
> > been wiped out when opening a folder on another machine.
> >
> > Because of
> >
> > this, I now habitually copy all my xmp files to a
> >
> > subfolder
> >
> > after
> >
> > working on them in order to keep a back up, just in
> >
> > case.
> >
> > Occasionally
> >
> > I need to manually load these sidecar files.
> >
> > Would an option to disable darktable's database and use
> >
> > just
> >
> > the xmp
> >
> > files be a feasible option?  How about using something
> >
> > like
> >
> > syncthing
> >
> > (Linux platform here) to keep the database synced between
> >
> > multiple
> >
> > machines?  Would doing that cause any foreseeable issues?
> >
> > How are other people dealing with using multiple machines
> >
> > to
> >
> > work onprojects, any tips?
> >
> > when I use any machine beside my main workstation to edit
> >
> > photos, I issue
> >
> > darktable as:
> >
> >    darktable --library :memory:
> >
> >    import the photos to be edited
> >
> >    finish the edits
> >
> >    close dt
> >
> > and back at my workstation, re-import the edited photos
> >
> > with
> >
> > their
> >
> > accompanying xmp files.
> >
> > have not encountered any problems with this work plan.
> >
> > In theory... if you have 2 identical machines (for example
> >
> > linux)
> >
> > shared network location for DT files
> >
> > shared network location for the DB, configuration files and
> >
> > cache
> >
> > same mounting point for the 2 machines
> >
> > you could use DT on one or the other (one at a time) and the
> >
> > changes should
> >
> > be on the 2 machines.
> >
> > BUT... I haven't tested the scenario please back up if you
> >
> > want
> >
> > to try it.
> >
> > On the other hand - what Patrick is pointing to is based on
> >
> > experience.
> >
> >
> >
> > IF, IF, IF you NEVER run dt at the same time on different
> >
> > machines,one
> >
> > could share the db placing it on networked storage.  BUT NEVER
> >
> > RUNDT ON
> >
> > TWO MACHINES AT THE SAME TIME.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > try instead, to import the image instead of just reading the xmp
> >
> > file.  Ihave not seen that happen to me and I do have duplicate
> >
> > images withdifferent crops.  it appears your dup images are not being
> >
> > created withthe same filenames reflected by your oddly number xmp
> >
> > files.  but ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > versions of what?
> >
> >
> > importing an image not in dt's db will utilize the acompanying xmp.
> >
> >
> > you have something irregular wrt your filename and accompanying xmp files.
> >
> > if the filenames to the xmp files do not match, iiuc, the xmp is not
> >
> > relevant, ie: not utilized.  you appear to be defeating the very action
> >
> > you wish to utilize.
> >
> >
> >

see my recent post.

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