This is just a comment on the filmic module. I like it actually over the base curve but I still find the need to adjust certain tones, emphasizing them with the tone curve. I don't think that will change. The filmic adjustments are often too coarse.
Also, for some reason, compared to using darktable 2.4 a long time ago with base curve/tone curve, after using filmic in darktable 3 my images seem to be quite desaturated. I usually activate velvia and tweak colours either using saturation or color zones to generate something that I would consider more accurate. I probbaly am not using the most efficient workflow, but actually I am quite fast at darktable having used it for 5 years as by first Raw developer, but I was just wondering if other people are using a different workflow when it comes to improving saturation after using filmic. Jason On 27/7/20 12:51 pm, David Vincent-Jones wrote: > After you have read the replies to your initial question, I am sure that > you must be quite confused. Let me try to more correctly find an answer > that may make sense. > > There are two possible development 'routes' in darktable. 1.) uses the > 'base curve'; 2.) uses the 'filmic-rgb' module. > > If you use the base-curve approach .. this module designed to > approximate a camera jpg and is not normally modified by the uses. If > you wish to modify the effects of the base-curve then you should be > using the tone-curve to make corrections as needed. > > Patrick has been advocating that you use the filmic-rgb approach (a more > recent darktable development); in which case the base-curve should be > switched off totally and then all/most of the adjustment will be done > within filmic-rgb. > > I would strongly recommend that you familiarize these processes through > the excellent manual or the numerous videos that are available on-line. > > David > > On 2020-07-27 8:18 a.m., Patrick Shanahan wrote: >> * Mikael Ståldal <mik...@staldal.nu> [07-27-20 10:50]: >>> I use Darktable 3.0.2 (the latest version as far as I know). >>> >>> I have read about the base curve module in the user manual. I understand the >>> mechanics about changing the curve, but the whole concept is very abstract >>> to me. >>> >>> >>> On 2020-07-27 16:26, Patrick Shanahan wrote: >>>> * Mikael Ståldal <mik...@staldal.nu> [07-27-20 10:16]: >>>>> I have enabled the base curve with preset "sony alpha like" (since I have >>>>> Sony cameras), and that is better than without. >>>>> >>>>> But I have a hard time understanding how to manually edit the base curve >>>>> in >>>>> a useful way. I can edit it, and I see how the image changes, but it feels >>>>> quite random to me. I don't know what to do to get the result I want. >>>>> >>>>> Most of the presets are for specific camera makers, so it's hard to know >>>>> which one to chose. Does it even make sense to use a preset for another >>>>> camera than the one taking the photo? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2020-07-26 00:55, Terry Pinfold wrote: >>>>>> ·A base curve is applied automatically but if you look in the preset >>>>>> options you may find another you prefer. You can also create your own >>>>>> for future use. >>>> you don't say what version dt you employe but a better approach would be >>>> to enable filmic and follow: >>>> https://discuss.pixls.us/t/darktable-3-0-for-dummies-in-3-modules/15849 >>>> >>>> as advised in this thread. >>>> >>>> >>>> about base curve: >>>> https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/modules.html >>>> 3.4.1.4.Base curve >>>> >>>> fwiw, I have filmic enabled. >>>> >> aiui, base curve matched exactly to your camera/model is an effort to display >> a basically acceptable jpg image "resembling" but not matching your >> "basic" ooc image. imnsho, you would be better served employing filmic >> and disabling base curve. >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org ____________________________________________________________________________ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
