Forking does not contribute to the project. It contributes to a new project, which darktable may not necessarily adopt. Then I have to also fork darktable, which means that I have now solved my problem, and my problem only, until my fork of exiv2 is merged back into the original project, which is guaranteed not to happen if the lawyers do not get back to the project leaders.
I was actually told that someone already forked EXIV2 0.27 to include AVIF, but that fork will not be merged in EXIV2 0.28, which Mills is currently working on, —his last involvement before someone else takes control of the project,— and as far as I can tell, is a one man effort. I have to trust that one man, to trust that one fork. [ASIDE] Also, I understand that his fork uses dav1d, and not aomd, which is what I use, and that may just mean a little more work for me. Not that it is a big deal; currently I compile my own exiv2, aom, avid, gthumb, gphoto, and darktable anyway, so as to get full WebP support and partial AVIF support, but dav1d requires a different set of compile tools, which , again, not a big deal. [/ASIDE] So, forking the project helps me, and me only, (for now), not the project, or others who use it. As I said, my biggest problems are lawyers failing to communicate. Had they done that, better programmers than I would have had AVIf support in exiv2 long ago, as more capable programmers were already willing to do the work. Sincerely, Karim Hosein Top Rock Photography 754.999.1652 On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 21:20, Patrick Shanahan <p...@opensuse.org> wrote: > * Top Rock Photography <ka...@toprockphotography.com> [01-29-21 21:14]: > > My only demand is that the lawyer gets on the phone and speak to the AOM > > people. It has been almost one year! IANAL…. > > > > …But I have read the AOM license,, and I have studied the case of Nokia > vs > > the other members of AOM, and HEIF. In that case, all the other lawyers > > claim that a) Nokia never held a patent on the parts of HEIF used in > > AV1/AVIF, and, whatever patent they claim to have would have already > > expired. > > > > That leaves all remaining patents within the powers of AOM and their > > licensing. > > > > The issue was not coding, but waiting to hear from the lawyer…. for > almost > > a year. Robin Mills was willing to work on the code at one point, but > > several people kept claiming that, despite the publicly available > license, > > and the work done by clothes, (including Exiftool), that Mills cannot put > > any code which reads the metadata (forget about even writing it), into > > exiv2. It ended with him running out of time, because no lawyer got back > to > > give the go-ahead, (or to affirm that it could not be done). Ergo, it > will > > not be done for exiv2 version 0.28. > > > > Well, that is what the closed, feature request thread says. (It does not > > say, “about a year,” but it has been over a year since the > thread/response > > was started, and mills giving his stance on 0.28 was almost a year ago). > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Karim Hosein > > Top Rock Photography > > 754.999.1652 > > > > > > > > On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 17:19, Martin Straeten <martin.strae...@gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > Why don’t you take over the responsibility for the project? And be > fully > > > accountable for a possible copyright or patent infringement? > > > It is presumptuous to demand something from others that you are not > > > willing to contribute yourself. > > > > > > Am 29.01.2021 um 20:11 schrieb Top Rock Photography < > > > ka...@toprockphotography.com>: > > > > > > > > > My only concern is that, although AVIF is not patent encumbered, he > > > refused to add the reading/writing of metadata data to AVIF, until he > > > speaks to a lawyer. That has been quite a long time ago and so, my AVIF > > > files made by darktable seem to have no metadata. > > > > > > Currently, Exiftool is no better (in that regard). Worse yet, aside > from > > > the most popular browsers, (Firefox, Chrome/Chromium), I cannot find a > > > viewer for AVIF files. > > > > > > Does one really need a lawyer to work for over one year to decide that > the > > > reading/writing of metadata in an AVIF does NOT violate any patents not > > > covered by the open license? Is his lawyer billing him at US$20,000 > per day? > > > > > > I am confident that the exiv2 project will be taken over. I just hope > that > > > whoever takes it over has a lawyer who knows how to make phone calls > and/or > > > write letters. > > > > > > I have other issues on AVIF support, but this is not the thread for > that. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > = > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > but leaves you free to fork the project and include support for avif and > no longer wait for the laywers. > > -- > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > ____________________________________________________________________________ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
