I really love the way that Darktable is transparent about the order of the pipeline being applied. You can choose to use modules in whichever order you want , but Darktable then processes them in the logical order determined by the developers with the aim of producing the best result. However, there are times that the module order must be changed. For instance, I am scanning a lot of film and have discovered that I can retain the best highlight details in negatives by scanning as a positive and getting an image that looks like the negative with the orange base and inverted colours. I then go to Darktable and use the negadoctor module to invert the image to the expected colours. However, I want to then use the color calibration module to further improve the color. This must be reordered in the pipeline to a point after negadoctor. Darktable gives me this option.
When I consider programs like Lightroom. There seems a logical layout of sliders to fix exposure, shadows, highlights, color, etc. But there is no transparency about the order that they are applied in the pipeline and there appears no option to change the pipeline. Being able to alter the order of modules in the GUI of darktable would be a low priority for Darktables developers and would be of limited benefit, but being able to order the pipeline is a great advantage of darktable and this is what the end user should be embracing. It is also possible to manage module layouts and sort out which modules are shown in each group and to even create a group of favourites. This might help some people feel more comfortable with Darktable's GUI. I also use the search module function a lot when looking for non-favorite modules that I may not have shown in my GUI. Darktable is an amazing program and I am so appreciative of the great effort by the developers. It is really worth the effort to learn. Watch some of the videos, read the release notes and read the user manual when trying to understand modules new to you. I don't believe Knoeps was trying to be critical of the developers or even Darktable, but rather just trying to share his experiences at using the program. BTW, the negadoctor module is amazing and I have not seen anything like it in other editing programs. On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 at 00:23, Kneops <kne...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ah okay, so that kind of ordering can be done anyway. I will experiment > then. > > > > > Op 15-02-2021 om 14:09 schreef Terry Pinfold: > > Hi, > > it is very easy to order the pipeline. The developers have > > determined the way they feel it works best for most workflows, but I > > find that at times I want or need to reorder the pipeline. It is so > > easy. Just use Ctrl + Shift to drop and drag the modules. For instance > > when I use Filmic RGB I often want to do a final adjustment with the RGB > > curves tool, so I just drag it above Filmic in the pipeline. I never > > want to have RGB curves before filmic but that is where the developers > > have placed it in their wisdom or oversight. But Darktable gives me the > > chice to change it and this is a strength of Darktable that leaves other > > programs for dead. However, understand that the developers have put > > thought into the order to achieve usually the best results so reorder > > the pipeline with caution. However it can be changed. Kudos to the > > developers for not locking us into a fixed workflow and pipeline. And > > yes they can be reordered before they have an effect on the pipeline. > > All I can say to anyone is that Darktable is one incredible and fun > > program to learn. > > > > On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 21:44, Kneops <kne...@gmail.com > > <mailto:kne...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Trying DT again I notice that I cannot reorder the modules, except > when > > they also have an effect on the order in the pipeline. > > > > Intuitevely I work from top to bottom, exposure, white balance, > > contrast, then cropping etc. and at the end things like sharpening > and > > vignetting. Now the modules have no logical order at all (except the > > pipeline) > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > <mailto:darktable-user%2bunsubscr...@lists.darktable.org> > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > -- Dr Terry Pinfold Cytometry & Histology Lab Manager Lecturer in Flow Cytometry University of Tasmania 17 Liverpool St, Hobart, 7000 Ph 6226 4846 or 0408 699053 ____________________________________________________________________________ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
