OK.  Thanks for the advice.

Cheers,
Craig

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> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:56:24 +0200
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Trouble Installing DBD::ODBC with postgresql
> 
> On 13.07.2007 21:59, Craig Metzer wrote:
> > Alexander,Thanks for the tip.  We have an enterprise license.  We run it on 
> > Sun servers, but my script is on a Linux box.  
> That should be no problem, all you need is a set of Oracle client 
> libraries to compile and run DBD::Oracle on Linux. Ask your local Oracle 
> DBA or the one (s)he asks for help. ;-)
> 
> > If installing Personal Oracle is easy, then I'll do it.  
> The last time I tried, Oracle was at Version 8, and it was painful 
> because I did not use Oracles prefered Linux distribution. But things 
> should have become better since then. In the worst case, confiscate an 
> old Windows box (any NT4/Win2K/WinXP workstation will do, no need for a 
> Windows "Server" license) and install the Windows version of Personal 
> Oracle there. It won't be fast, but it will work.
> 
> Or ask your DBA for 100 MB on one of the sun servers, an isolated table 
> space and a login dedicated to our development
> 
> > But to interface to the remote Oracle db, I'll still need ODBC, right? 
> No.
> 
> ODBC is not remote access to a database, ODBC is a layer on top of 
> native drivers to present applications a unique interface. If you link a 
> C program against an ODBC library, it can communicate with any database 
> for which you can find an ODBC driver. Essentially, ODBC and ODBC 
> drivers are the same concept as DBI and DBD::xxx drivers and JDBC and 
> JDBC drivers. DBD::ODBC is a nice trick to gain access to a large set of 
> existing database drivers (all ODBC drivers you can find) from DBI. And 
> there is also a DBD::JDBC to get Perls fingers on every database for 
> which you can find a JDBC driver. But DBD::ODBC and DBD::JDBC share one 
> bad point: They stack layers and layers over a native driver, making 
> eveything slower then it could be. So they both are just an excuse for 
> unavailable native drivers.
> 
> Oracle usually uses TCP/IP Port 1521 for the entire SQL communication. 
> It can use other mechanisms for local connections, but 1521/tcp is the 
> most coommonly used way to speak with an Oracle DB. If you can establish 
> a TCP connection from your linux box to port 1521 on one of the Sun 
> servers (using a perl script with sockets, nmap, or simply telnet 
> sunserver.your.lan 1521), chances are very good that you can use a 
> native connection. If you get a "connection refused", your DBA may have 
> moved Oracle to another port. Find a box that has a working connection 
> and search for a file named $ORACLE_HOME/network/admin/tnsnames.ora or 
> $ORACLE_HOME/net80/admin/tnsnames.ora, it usually contains all the 
> information you need. Or look how the ODBC driver is configured to 
> connect to the sun server. Some other commonly used ports are 1526 and 
> 1525 (ancient).
> 
> The native Oracle driver (part of the client library set you get from 
> some Oracle CDROM or download) uses the tnsnames.ora file to find the 
> right way to connect to the Oracle database, no matter if it runs on the 
> same machine or a fat server 20.000 km away. It does a good job hiding 
> all the complexity of communication with the server from you.
> 
> > The script I'm writing is for a very simple db.
> 
> Small data ammounts are no excuse for not using Oracle. ;-)
> 
> >   I'm writing a utility that uses NSAPping to get availability and latency 
> > for our ATM network.  Two small tables.  I could use a flat file for 
> > output, but I'd like to automate Crystal Reports to build the monthly 
> > availability reports, and Crystal uses a db interface, so at db is the best 
> > solution ... besides, Oracle will do all the data maintenance, rollups, 
> > etc.  
> Right.
> 
> Alexander
> 
> -- 
> Alexander Foken
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.foken.de/alexander/
> 

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