On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 09:37:24PM +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Josh Triplett writes ("Re: Bug#727708: init system other points, and 
> conclusion"):
> > On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 03:40:17PM -0500, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > > In other words, what you're saying is that not only [something
> > > about NetworkManager]
> > 
> > It's fairly clear that NetworkManager [something something]
> 
> Can I suggest that raking over these old coals isn't really helping ?
> 
> Anything that could have convinced any of the participants in that
> dispute has already been said.  I doubt anyone is going to change
> their mind now.
> 
> For the same reason bringing this dispute up as an example is probably
> not that helpful either.

This particular branch of the discussion doesn't seem particularly
helpful, no, and I hadn't planned to continue it further.

I do think NM serves as a useful cautionary tale here, to the extent
that both it and systemd/logind represent ongoing sources of costly
divergence for GNOME packaging, and I think folks who just see the
original tech-ctte decision there may be under the mistaken impression
that that work was over and done with with just a change to package
metadata.  However, I don't think this branch of the discussion in
particular is relevant to that point, and I'm happy to drop it.

- Josh Triplett


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