On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 05:14:54PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:

> > And I could still do - but I'm not allowed anymore. Great Job, Mr.
> > Troup!
> Oh, come on, this isn't fair.
> You're not allowed to anymore because you stubbornly refused to pledge
> you would not compromise Debian's security unless James would apologise
> himself for who he is, and come up with some sort of plan so that some
> of his flaws would not surface again. As if you're perfect yourself.

I refused to agree to that thingie, because I wanted to have *first* a way
to communicate between us. Without communication no cooperation is possible
and therefore no need to agree to anything. Quite simple. 

> When he declined (after seriously considering the option), and, because
> he didn't receive a pledge from you (and thus couldn't in any reasonable
> way trust you) locked you out of Debian hardware, you rambled on and
> screamed that James is a Bad Guy and should be removed from his roles,
> and that Debian as an organisation doesn't trust non-DD's and that it
> should do so.

When he's unable to communicate with others, he's just plain wrong at that
central position. 

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      Ingo         \X/


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