In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: > > > > Debian comes up in a much "rawer" form after install - for instance, > > no prompt beyond the basic "#" for root and "$" for the user (RedHat > > gives you the now famous "username /home/username$" prompt). > > # and $ are standard/expected prompts. if you want something different, > customise it yourself.
I think you are missing my point. I'm not just talking about the prompt or X11 or any other specific package, but the whole shabam. > > what are you talking about? > > debian has a 'menu' package which all other packages can use to register > themselves with - menus for fvwm, fvwm95 and other are auto-generated > from this information. It was written in such a way that it is easy to > add support for a new window manager or text-mode menu program whenever > needed. > > Not all packages are using menu yet, but most are. > Yes, I know about this - I found it out a few days ago, BUT, you are again missing my point that in *my*, yes, *my* view it would be an advantage to have some sort of nice default setup instead of a bare-bones system. Yes, all the tools are in place to help me customize but the system is still bare-bones. I don't know about you, but I am into Linux as a hobby - I only have a few hours a week to devote to it. I *will* get around to learning all the intricacies and I *will* configure it to my own tastes, but in the meantime, while I am learning all the functions I would prefer a nicer setup. > It's also fairly easy to use it to make custom menus - e.g. if you want > an xterms menu which contains several "xterm -T <hostname> -e rlogin > <hostname>" menu entries then you can have it quite easily - either as > part of the standard system menu which everyone gets or as your custom > menu which only your login gets. > > last i saw them, redhat's menus were all hard-coded. they DON'T get > automatically updated whenever a new package is installed. Debian's menus > DO get automatically updated. > > so, install the menu package and look in /usr/doc/menu > > > These are just a few examples. > > ...of not bothering to find out what debian can do. > > it seems to me that your complaints have less to do with omissions in > debian than with lack of understanding/knowledge on your part. What you > want (and more!) is already in debian. > > Craig > My complaints have to do with the fact that for someone taking Linux as a hobby, as opposed to it being a part of his work or very soul, Debain seems to neglect the fact that I can't learn it all in 3 days/weeks/whatever yet still would like a simple working system while I go through the ropes. Yoav -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]