On 11/23/2014 1:15 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 23 nov 14, 12:17:00, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> >> What I see missing in these discussions is the vast number of people who >> don't monitor the lists. That is the huge majority of Debian users. > > I agree that they are the majority. > >> Some will get a rude surprise when they upgrade and things don't work as >> expected. > > Well, I will assert that those users also don't customize their systems > in ways that would matter for the Wheezy -> Jessie upgrade switch to > systemd[1]. >
I think that's a false assumption. Virtually every server I'm familiar with has some customization for individual needs. Very few are running stock Wheezy packages only. But that's probably because one of the things I do is device drivers, and virtually every system I write them for is special purpose for one reason or another. Even though my experience shows the opposite, I will admit that experience is a small part of the entire Linux installation base. However, I still don't believe you can make that assumption. >> Many will be able to fix those problems - but at a cost of time and >> manpower. Others will have neither the time nor the money to fix the >> problems, and still others will not have the technical expertise to do so. > > As with any major transition. And your point is? > > [1] assuming this will happen, as it's still not decided yet. > > Kind regards, > Andrei > This is a much bigger change than any release in about the last 10 years. With other upgrades, virtually everything custom ran fine. The biggest problem I saw was when the device driver interface changed and I had to rewrite a bunch of drivers. But even that was minimal compared to this change - which will affect many more users. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: https://lists.debian.org/[email protected]

