-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi,
> Lately, I feel that this trust has been violated. Most notably, by > the addition of advertisements to iceweasel's new tab page. > http://timothy.hobbs.cz/iceweasel-ads.png See the "Booking.com" > sponsored link. Apparently, that's a bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787174 > I would like to see an in-depth discussion of where Debian draws > the line when it comes to interaction of packaged software with > commercial services. Iceweasel has, for years now, used google.com > as the default search engine. I doubt few would disagree with that > choice, despite the fact that Mozilla gets paid by Google to make > it that way. As I can speak only for myself as a user: I draw the line at closed source for which there is an open-source alternative with the features I need. > Another interesting example is that of the open source Atom text > editor: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=747824 > Atom is, as far as I can tell, mostly a front end to github's > closed source services. Should the DFSG allow open source software > that is merely a thin front end to something closed source? As long as it doesn't require non-free software to work? Why not. After all, someone could integrate it with some open-source front-end, like GitLab or RoundCube. In the case of Atom cited: * The ticket is about the "issue" that not all files contain a license header, which isn't required anyway. * It's an editor/IDE. You could just as well complain that it's possible to create closed source software with it. > Another example is docker.io, which is almost inseparably > integrated with Docker Inc's comercial Docker hub. You said it yourself: "almost". As long as it's possible to create your own images without resorting to closed source repositories I don't see an issue. If you want to completely detach your private cloud from Docker Inc they have release the Registry software as open source: https://docs.docker.com/registry/ Also, would you complain about RedHat for their business model? After all, they too require you to buy a subscription to their open source repositories. Or is it alright if a company wants compensation for their work of curating, testing, and integrating of software? Regards, /peter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWE1NnAAoJEM+6Ng5pbtyZeWQQALGi9hronXdP6CZoMTZi8no+ 2tWPFMF8/4ysa/1y8TBNvNZonJOF12MM6wUb8lU6B9raOLZfu2sq+Y6DdIotnmAH rnkGxVK8BZCKUmHV6BqFr+98UO/J1ak/tnXZs0vXkf0ZuVfrJGSM5W1HwupsGnfs +HsVw7nLlw6oGLtCU2ml1Ar3UHJZXLrldVghYk3fgqgmygavOJdPt6RLlM5C+0CM umJ1X3PG05MGoTCeHYRaxWHEG9cc3aaLd/lQ0agJHS7ZMZ7xuwEs1zRNH8nzjO4C TgeZxAdgigZ46ZiEPfAJopRckYZLL1QiHoa9iF5ui2FtRelK69tYWZp/LWBIcAqI JSyvalMXJGjr2qHZq55gi4OiLv5W6eSsmGHYnOSjF0f7XLhv9vqgk4UUvnr0kD0V Rk59DcuT8DKd+uF7DycoSmBgTLOIlgdVuQqLR7Su47qpzhw5h6Cd1v3AGSXxeEPu sHy1ADRz6bNIF6u2Iq5K0maG7/1l+JZdJibsdoCKu4BUHOKr3OeGTkp7XfE2FG+8 4HQwZ5+5dBN75/5tEp8jBRpqYHQQGLMa+X7nxVsNVSbhSQEKI5zwspRJr9dxsvZr BGu2aBqCb3vUpHvyiWVrLHV2WCfPMS7bjkoF0pQnh+mhs89NCJ24PcyC2e+wK48W wl0cpwSLk2UtJHAn8a8I =zlOr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----