On 2021-06-30 at 09:16, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-06-30 5:57 a.m., The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2021-06-30 at 05:23, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
>>> Yes, whatever great idea you have, even if others are wrong in >>> what they say. Nothing justify being rude and lacking respect. >>> >>> I never used any swearing word on this mailing list and it won't >>> be part in any of my arguments. >> >> It's possible that there may be a miscommunication / confusion >> here. >> >> At least according to my understanding, the idiom "to knock >> [person] off" is commonly understood as a euphemism for "to murder >> [person]". > > I didn't have in mind any type of murder or long lasting damage of > any soft. > > When I said, to "Knock you off with a shovel in the face", I meant a > kind of "Wake up call". But now, as you say it, and as English is > somewhat my first language, even if it's more my second now, I do > remember as a kid / teenager that I would have interpreted that as > "To be turned off". > > I was a somewhat literal translation from the french where you can > say "Le réveiller à coup de pelle dans la face" which mean to wake > someone up with a shovel in the face. > > So take it as : > A kick in the ass. > A kick in the but. > A slap in the face. > A physical wake up call. > ... > Something that will shake you enough that you get the time to think. > Something like... > Hope you understand before you end up 6 month on a hospital bed so you > can get your mind straight. I guessed that you might mean something like that, but that is not how it may have come across to someone familiar with the English idiom in question. That's why I wanted to clarify the point. >> Thus, when you wrote "I can only hope that someone will knock you >> off with a shovel in the face", that may have been read as "I can >> only hope that someone one day murders you by smashing your face in >> with a shovel". >> >> This is, clearly, a *far greater* verbal escalation than merely >> using foul language; I suspect, though I am not certain, that it >> would be seen as grounds for immediate banning from the mailing >> list. > > If it is, then be it. Which would be somewhat hard to understand has > you seem to accept mail coming from any server and even user not on > the mailing list. I seem to recall mention of moderation at some points in the past, although specifics do escape me, and it's possible I'm remembering wrong. > So as you are the almighty that now believe I shall be banned. Wish > you good luck. I never said any such thing. I said that, *if* the statement which yours could be interpreted as had been what you said (or what you meant), then clearly that would be grounds for a ban. Since you've now clarified that that isn't what you meant (and plausibly so, at least in my opinion), that would probably be enough to remove that option from the picture, if it was ever in. > I'll go back like all those ones who take and don't give. And will > surely abstain from sharing my opinions or helping others in what I > may have knowledge. That would be a sad outcome. Although the style of your posts to this mailing list that I've seen thus far don't tend to fit very well with my personal tastes, I do think that we're overall better off with you participating than we'd be if you were not. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw
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