On Thu, 2024-07-18 at 07:55 +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 08:00:06PM -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > > On Wed, 2024-07-17 at 22:17 -0400, e...@gmx.us wrote: > > > On 7/17/24 21:25, Gary Dale wrote: > > > > I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system, using the Plasma > > > > 5 > > > > over X > > > > desktop. Firefox 115.12.0esr is crashing multiple times per > > > > day. It > > > > frequently happens when page I'm transfers to another page that > > > > creates a > PDF or just has a complicated link. It's annoying. > > > > I upgraded from Debian 10 to Debian 12.5 "Bookworm." The NVidia 390 > > driver no longer works, so I had software rendering because nouveau > > apparently can't do GPU rendering. Rather than crashing, the system > > essentially froze. After waiting for a VERY long time, I would give > > up > > and cycle power, with my reboot set up to start an empty session, > > not > > the one I had going at time of the power cycle. I replaced the > > graphics > > card with a Quadro K2200, which works with the nvidia-drivers > > package > > that's still part of the Debian 12.5 distro. With GPU rendering, I > > no > > longer have the problem. > > > > HOW did you upgrade? Did you go via 11? > > Did you purge all Nvidia drivers at that point? Nouveau works fairly > well > if there's no other trace of Nvidia on the system. Freezing is > definitely > a symptom of drivers fighting.
Fresh install on reformatted boot and root partitions. > > I can't do that with my old Dell Vostro 1700 because the NVidia > > graphics chip is soldered to the motherboard, and it needs the 340 > > driver, which is also no longer available. > > > > If this is the Dell with dual chipsets - one Nvidia to do the heavy > graphics, an Intel chipset for basics - like a bunch of gaming > laptops > you'd need to look at the Debian Nvidia pages for primus and so on. One chipset. > If it *just* has Nvidia - at this point, use Nouveau - stop trying to > use Nvidia drivers on old hardware and that Dell is 2008 vintage? I gave up trying to install the NVidia 340 driver on Debian 12.5. If the rendering is unbearably slow, I'll revert to Debian 10. > Software movces on - the very latest Nvidia drivers are "more free" > but > also incorporate entire RISC-V chipsets on board the latest cards. I can't upgrade a soldered-in chip.
