On Thursday, November 20, 2014 12:33:28 PM Sam Hartman wrote: > >>>>> "Lucas" == Lucas Nussbaum <lu...@debian.org> writes: > Lucas> (Elaborating on the context a bit given the discussion spread > Lucas> over some time -- two options have been proposed: - expire > Lucas> the 2 most senior members - expire the 2-R most senior > Lucas> members, with R the number of resignations over the last 12 > Lucas> months) > > Lucas> What we want to encourage is, I think, a sane and healthy > Lucas> turnover in the TC. Ideally, this would happen automatically: > Lucas> members would just resign when they feel that bringing fresh > Lucas> manpower is profitable to the TC overall. However, there's a > Lucas> number of social reasons why this doesn't work so well. > Lucas> which might weaken the TC a bit too much. With the '2-R' > Lucas> schema, I have an additional incentive to resign: if I > Lucas> resign, I 'save' someone else more senior than me from > Lucas> getting expired. (And given I'm not so active anymore, > Lucas> instead of weakening the TC further, my resignation might > Lucas> even reinforce the TC). > > > Lucas> The '2-R' schema could even result in an internal TC > Lucas> discussion: "OK, the Project wants us to change two > Lucas> members. Are there people that feel like resigning now? Or > Lucas> should we just fallback to the default of expiring the two > Lucas> most senior members?" I think that if this happened, it > Lucas> would be very healthy for the TC. > > I think such discussions would be good. > > I don't think this conflicts with what I said about term limits earlier > this morning. > While I do think that 4-5 years is a good term length, I do think a lot > of churn can be bad, and 2-r makes a lot of sense to me for the reason > you give above.
[responding here because it's the end of the thread right now, not sure where better] Given that we've just had significant turnover in th TC, might it not make sense to have the first term expirations set for a year or two from now? That would keep this discussion well separated from any current turmoil and I think it's reasonably clear that we don't, at the moment, suffer from a lack of turnover in the TC (which AIUI is the motivation for this). Scott K -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1451239.ITZlMzDDEA@kitterman-optiplex-9020m