We are not an ISP; as a private corporation, we define our usage policy and
it is more strict than what you can, so we can block junkmail as well as
spam.  We try not to be censors, but spam and junkmail cost us real dollars
in theft of service and loss of productivity.

We have the luxury of blocking FlowGo, ValOffers et al. The standard
response is "that isn't related to our line of business, subscribe from your
personal account if you want it".

We are actually blocking very little based solely on IP, largely because of
our well-earned lack of trust for the accuracy of ip4r services; we swallow
most of it and then decide to DELETE stuff like ValOffers based on content,
and then HOLD whatever the rest of our Declude rules accumulate above a
given WEIGHT.

Andrew 8)

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinion on bulk mailers

What is everyone's opinion on bulk mailers like flowgo, gossipflash,
valoffers, quill? The joke lists, cell phone offers, travel offers, software
offers, etc.

The old saying one mans trash is anothers treasure comes to mind. While I as
an isp admin think it's trash, and optin is the only true legit method, a
user might want this stuff. Most if not all are listed on the RBLs.<snip>
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