But since the subject that you are receiving is "undeliverable : RE:
Details" isn't that his server is just returning the message  Unless the
virus has more subjects then the list of subjects that I am aware of.
Looks like the original message had the virus attached and that was
Declude detected when his server bounced it back to you.

Maybe?  I'm hoping someone else jumps in....



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Dodell
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 11:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] No wonder viruses spread

>Um - I'm not sure, but I think he may be right.  The declude virus
catch
>looks like a bounce from his server, not sent through his server.  As
>you said the e-mail address is forged - so if an infected computer has
a
>user from your domain and a bad address from his, once his server can't

I don't think so.  The only reason is there is another IP address
showing received past his server, another IP from their block that shows
that the message originated there.

David

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Dodell
>Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 6:01 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [Declude.Virus] No wonder viruses spread
>
>Here is a snipet of some on going email I'm having with a LAN
>administrator at a university hospital.  I forwarded a copy of the
>Declude virus catch, to show them the IP #'s of the machine that sent
>the Sobig virus.   I can't get it through his head that the headers
>are forged, and irrevelant.
>
>My last message to him pleaded to have him establish a telephone
>dialog with me so I could explain the message to him ... I politely
>told him if he wants to take the chance that a workstation is infected
>within their LAN based on the assumption that he might really be
>wrong, he was welcomed to the havoc it will cause.
>
><sigh>
>
>
>David Dodell
>
>
>
>===================Original message text===============
>David,
>
>In looking at the header you sent Marcy, the subject of the message is
>"Undeliverable: Re: Details" which means our e-mail system was sending
>you a
>message back that it couldn't deliver a message from you.
>
>My best guess is that Sobig may be on your pc, and you have a contact
>somewhere to someone at uch that is no longer here or valid.  Not too
>uncommon for we changed our domain last year.
>
>Furthermore, our e-mail system doesn't allow .pif or .scr attachments
>and
>will strip them if attempted whether infected or not.
>
>We appreciate the heads up, but based upon the header it looks like it
>was a
>bounced message from you that was infected and thus the hit by your
>antivirus.
>
>If you have any additional questions, comments, or concerns don't
>hesitate
>to let me know.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>
>This came from David who said this came from one of our computers.  He
>said
>he was this stat technology.  
>
>Marcy
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Dodell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 2:22 PM
>To: <left out to protect identity>
>Subject: Fwd: Virus Notification
>
>
>
>
>===================Original message text===============
>Declude Virus v1.75i2 caught the following:
>
>Virus Name:  W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Virus File: movie0045.pif
>
>From: [Forged]
>To  : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date:       08/23/2003 13:06:35
>Subject:    Undeliverable: Re: Details
>Spool File: Dc94a00d300be355a.SMD
>RemoteIP: 168.200.2.37
>SenderHost: Unknown
>
>----------------
>
>Received: from guava.uch.edu [168.200.2.37] by stat.com with ESMTP
>  (SMTPD32-8.02) id A94AD300BE; Sat, 23 Aug 2003 13:06:34 -0700
>Received: from mail pickup service by guava.uch.edu with Microsoft
>SMTPSVC;
>         Sat, 23 Aug 2003 14:06:33 -0600
>Received: from uchaex2.uch.ad.pvt ([168.200.32.18]) by guava.uch.edu
>with
>Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 23 Aug 2003 14:06:23 -0600
>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
>Received: by uchaex2.uch.ad.pvt with Internet Mail Service
(5.5.2653.19)
>id
><RLYYQK7T>; Sat, 23 Aug 2003 14:06:23 -0600
>Message-ID:
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>from: "System Administrator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>to: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>subject: Undeliverable: Re: Details
>Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 14:06:22 -0600
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
>X-MS-Embedded-Report: 
>Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
>        boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C369B2.066CB0EC"
>Return-Path: 
>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Aug 2003 20:06:23.0921 (UTC)
>FILETIME=[07029210:01C369B2]
>
>
>
>================End of original message text===========
>
>================End of original message text===========
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