- 0,5 on supporting Java5
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote: > Since we have quite a few vetos against Java5 usage for this new project, I'd > say we go with Java6. Java7 is right around the corner, and Java5 is really > only legacy now. If projects still need to use java5, they can of course also > use Seam3 and CODI until they hava moved their servers. > > LieGrue, > strub > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jason Porter <lightguard...@gmail.com> >> To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Cc: >> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 10:44 AM >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-28] ServiceProvider >> >> If we wanted to try it later that's fine. >> >> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 02:41, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote: >> >>> We could try to use retro-translate to produce java5 compatible artifacts >>> later? >>> >>> LieGrue, >>> strub >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: Jason Porter <lightguard...@gmail.com> >>> > To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org >>> > Cc: >>> > Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 4:45 AM >>> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-28] ServiceProvider >>> > >>> > We have it in Seam, and Weld for that Java 5 support, but I'd >> prefer to >>> > stay on 6+. We *could* do a version compiled for jdk5. But then we get >>> into >>> > issues of which branch, making sure it's all Java 5 features, etc. >>> > >>> > -0.5 >>> > >>> > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 04:45, José Rodolfo Freitas < >>> > joserodolfo.frei...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >> +0 >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Gerhard Petracek < >>> >> gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > hi john, >>> >> > >>> >> > this feature won't prevent users from using deltaspike >> with candi >>> >> > (even >if< candi only supports java6+). >>> >> > >>> >> > regards, >>> >> > gerhard >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > 2011/12/22 John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com> >>> >> > >>> >> > > Hi Gerhard, >>> >> > > >>> >> > > How about resin (CanDI)? >>> >> > > >>> >> > > John >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Gerhard Petracek < >>> >> > > gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> > > >>> >> > > > hi john, >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > the impl. would >not< be bound to a cdi >> impl. >>> >> > > > owb as well as weld (see [1]) support java5. >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > regards, >>> >> > > > gerhard >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > [1] >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> https://github.com/weld/core/blob/master/impl/src/main/java/org/jboss/weld/util/ServiceLoader.java >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > 2011/12/22 John D. Ament >> <john.d.am...@gmail.com> >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > > -1 >>> >> > > > > Java5 is past EOL at this point. Not >> suitable for >>> > production >>> >> > > deployments >>> >> > > > > from my perspective. Java EE 6 (since any >> code we >>> > write for delta >>> >> > > spike >>> >> > > > is >>> >> > > > > against EE6) is for Java SE 6. Even if the >>> > implementation is using >>> >> > > Java >>> >> > > > 5 >>> >> > > > > at compilation time, the runtime is 6; and I >> would hope >>> > we would >>> >> code >>> >> > > > > against spec rather than specific impls. >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > John >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Gerhard >> Petracek < >>> >> > > > > gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > > hi @ all, >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > fyi: please check [1] before you answer. >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > [2] is the implementation used in owb. i >> suggest >>> > to start with it >>> >> > > > > (instead >>> >> > > > > > of the version of codi), because the >> version of >>> > codi provides >>> >> > > > additional >>> >> > > > > > mechanisms we might need later on (if we >> include >>> > the >>> >> corresponding >>> >> > > > > > features). >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > the basic concept: >>> >> > > > > > ServiceProvider (btw. >> DefaultLoaderService) is a >>> > custom >>> >> > > implementation >>> >> > > > of >>> >> > > > > > the ServiceLoader mechanism which allows >> to use >>> > codi with java >>> >> 1.5 >>> >> > > (if >>> >> > > > > the >>> >> > > > > > cdi container allows it as well). >>> >> > > > > > in case of java6+ the std. ServiceLoader >> gets >>> > used. >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > please send >>> >> > > > > > +1, +0 or -1 because... >>> >> > > > > > for the basic idea as well as the basic >> concept. >>> >> > > > > > if there are >basic< objections, >> please also >>> > add them to [3] >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > regards, >>> >> > > > > > gerhard >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > [1] >> http://markmail.org/message/7yefspfuvtz4jvmp >>> >> > > > > > [2] >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openwebbeans/tags/openwebbeans-1.1.3/webbeans-impl/src/main/java/org/apache/webbeans/service/DefaultLoaderService.java >>> >> > > > > > [3] >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > >>> >> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DeltaSpike/SE+Feature+Ranking >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Jason Porter >>> > http://lightguard-jp.blogspot.com >>> > http://twitter.com/lightguardjp >>> > >>> > Software Engineer >>> > Open Source Advocate >>> > Author of Seam Catch - Next Generation Java Exception Handling >>> > >>> > PGP key id: 926CCFF5 >>> > PGP key available at: keyserver.net, pgp.mit.edu >>> > >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jason Porter >> http://lightguard-jp.blogspot.com >> http://twitter.com/lightguardjp >> >> Software Engineer >> Open Source Advocate >> Author of Seam Catch - Next Generation Java Exception Handling >> >> PGP key id: 926CCFF5 >> PGP key available at: keyserver.net, pgp.mit.edu >> -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
