-1 for supporting Java5 Let Microsoft deal with the legacy stuff ^^
Regards, Jakob 2011/12/28 Matthias Wessendorf <mat...@apache.org>: > - 0,5 on supporting Java5 > > > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote: >> Since we have quite a few vetos against Java5 usage for this new project, >> I'd say we go with Java6. Java7 is right around the corner, and Java5 is >> really only legacy now. If projects still need to use java5, they can of >> course also use Seam3 and CODI until they hava moved their servers. >> >> LieGrue, >> strub >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Jason Porter <lightguard...@gmail.com> >>> To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 10:44 AM >>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-28] ServiceProvider >>> >>> If we wanted to try it later that's fine. >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 02:41, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> wrote: >>> >>>> We could try to use retro-translate to produce java5 compatible artifacts >>>> later? >>>> >>>> LieGrue, >>>> strub >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > From: Jason Porter <lightguard...@gmail.com> >>>> > To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org >>>> > Cc: >>>> > Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 4:45 AM >>>> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [DELTASPIKE-28] ServiceProvider >>>> > >>>> > We have it in Seam, and Weld for that Java 5 support, but I'd >>> prefer to >>>> > stay on 6+. We *could* do a version compiled for jdk5. But then we get >>>> into >>>> > issues of which branch, making sure it's all Java 5 features, etc. >>>> > >>>> > -0.5 >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 04:45, José Rodolfo Freitas < >>>> > joserodolfo.frei...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> +0 >>>> >> >>>> >> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Gerhard Petracek < >>>> >> gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> > hi john, >>>> >> > >>>> >> > this feature won't prevent users from using deltaspike >>> with candi >>>> >> > (even >if< candi only supports java6+). >>>> >> > >>>> >> > regards, >>>> >> > gerhard >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > 2011/12/22 John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com> >>>> >> > >>>> >> > > Hi Gerhard, >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > How about resin (CanDI)? >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > John >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Gerhard Petracek < >>>> >> > > gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > > hi john, >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > > the impl. would >not< be bound to a cdi >>> impl. >>>> >> > > > owb as well as weld (see [1]) support java5. >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > > regards, >>>> >> > > > gerhard >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > > [1] >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >>> https://github.com/weld/core/blob/master/impl/src/main/java/org/jboss/weld/util/ServiceLoader.java >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > > 2011/12/22 John D. Ament >>> <john.d.am...@gmail.com> >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > > > -1 >>>> >> > > > > Java5 is past EOL at this point. Not >>> suitable for >>>> > production >>>> >> > > deployments >>>> >> > > > > from my perspective. Java EE 6 (since any >>> code we >>>> > write for delta >>>> >> > > spike >>>> >> > > > is >>>> >> > > > > against EE6) is for Java SE 6. Even if the >>>> > implementation is using >>>> >> > > Java >>>> >> > > > 5 >>>> >> > > > > at compilation time, the runtime is 6; and I >>> would hope >>>> > we would >>>> >> code >>>> >> > > > > against spec rather than specific impls. >>>> >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > > John >>>> >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Gerhard >>> Petracek < >>>> >> > > > > gerhard.petra...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > hi @ all, >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > fyi: please check [1] before you answer. >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > [2] is the implementation used in owb. i >>> suggest >>>> > to start with it >>>> >> > > > > (instead >>>> >> > > > > > of the version of codi), because the >>> version of >>>> > codi provides >>>> >> > > > additional >>>> >> > > > > > mechanisms we might need later on (if we >>> include >>>> > the >>>> >> corresponding >>>> >> > > > > > features). >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > the basic concept: >>>> >> > > > > > ServiceProvider (btw. >>> DefaultLoaderService) is a >>>> > custom >>>> >> > > implementation >>>> >> > > > of >>>> >> > > > > > the ServiceLoader mechanism which allows >>> to use >>>> > codi with java >>>> >> 1.5 >>>> >> > > (if >>>> >> > > > > the >>>> >> > > > > > cdi container allows it as well). >>>> >> > > > > > in case of java6+ the std. ServiceLoader >>> gets >>>> > used. >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > please send >>>> >> > > > > > +1, +0 or -1 because... >>>> >> > > > > > for the basic idea as well as the basic >>> concept. >>>> >> > > > > > if there are >basic< objections, >>> please also >>>> > add them to [3] >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > regards, >>>> >> > > > > > gerhard >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > [1] >>> http://markmail.org/message/7yefspfuvtz4jvmp >>>> >> > > > > > [2] >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openwebbeans/tags/openwebbeans-1.1.3/webbeans-impl/src/main/java/org/apache/webbeans/service/DefaultLoaderService.java >>>> >> > > > > > [3] >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DeltaSpike/SE+Feature+Ranking >>>> >> > > > > > >>>> >> > > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Jason Porter >>>> > http://lightguard-jp.blogspot.com >>>> > http://twitter.com/lightguardjp >>>> > >>>> > Software Engineer >>>> > Open Source Advocate >>>> > Author of Seam Catch - Next Generation Java Exception Handling >>>> > >>>> > PGP key id: 926CCFF5 >>>> > PGP key available at: keyserver.net, pgp.mit.edu >>>> > >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jason Porter >>> http://lightguard-jp.blogspot.com >>> http://twitter.com/lightguardjp >>> >>> Software Engineer >>> Open Source Advocate >>> Author of Seam Catch - Next Generation Java Exception Handling >>> >>> PGP key id: 926CCFF5 >>> PGP key available at: keyserver.net, pgp.mit.edu >>> > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf -- Jakob Korherr blog: http://www.jakobk.com twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr work: http://www.irian.at
