On Sat, 2017-01-14 at 12:39 +0100, Andreas Schneider wrote: > Am 13.01.2017 um 23:21 schrieb Richard Shann: > > On Fri, 2017-01-13 at 21:23 +0100, Andreas Schneider wrote: > >> Thank you for all the work you put into the Gregorian chant. I have > >> inserted the missing things in the file by using my scheme scripts (I > >> have sent these in an earlier mail) and attached the result. There are > >> ligatures, first a pes (ligature from lower to higher note), then a > >> flexa (ligature from higher to lower note), and again a pes. The dot is > >> an augmentum. I am not quite sure how the melisma is meant, i.e. if the > >> "men" is to begin it the third or at the fith note, but I guess it's the > >> second option. For some reason, the spacing is a bit odd, maybe some > >> lilypond issues I am note aware of. > > > > Yes, I'm sure that is sung with -men on the last two notes. > > > > Did you notice that the augmentae (if that's the right plural!) are > > wrongly placed by LilyPond? I asked(*) on the LilyPond mailing list > > about this, and got a complete silence. I think the LilyPond support for > > Gregorian chant is moribund. I created the augmentum dots using markup > > (did I send that version?), but they have to be dragged into position > > graphically. > > I did notice that the augmenta were messed up, but I thought that I > might have missed some lilypond directive to use in such cases. Now I > know that is a problem of lilypond. Thank you for investigating. > > > There is some sort of a warning about the maturity of LilyPond in the > > documentation: > > > > "There is limited support for Gregorian square neumes notation > > (following the style of the Editio Vaticana). Core ligatures can already > > be typeset, but essential issues for serious typesetting are still > > lacking, such as (among others) horizontal alignment of multiple > > ligatures, lyrics alignment, and proper handling of accidentals." > > > > but it is quite buried. > > As another example of possible limitations of the LilyPond support I > > couldn't control the underlay of the lyrics. I think the lyrics may have > > to be added as markup too - or perhaps as lyrics on a second invisible > > voice where you could control the spacing... > > > > If this is worth pursuing - if you can always get LilyPond to output > > what you want reliably then it would be good to look at whether the > > placing of the \[ and \] can be done without the user needing to think > > about the order of them relative to the \flexa or whatever ... That is - > > can you have a set of rhythmic patterns that the user can switch to > > which will insert all the right things in the right order - you just > > have to play the notes once you have selected the type of group you want > > to enter. > > That would require a directive which asks about two notes and creates > the corresponding directives for, e.g., a flexa. I have no idea how to > do that, since several potential methods to input the notes (MIDI > keyboard, computer keyboard, mouse) would have to be cared for. It > sounds difficult to me.
well, no, it could insert a two-note rhythm for you to add the pitches to. Richard > > Andreas _______________________________________________ Denemo-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/denemo-devel
