That's really a nice design indeed.
How can we promote this design ? I would love to see an implementation
of these ideas in real life :)


On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 09:19 -0600, Scott Pledger wrote:

> This is actually very close to the design I'm currently working on for
> LibreOffice and, indeed, partly its inspiration.  Much of the difference
> between the implementation of Lotus Symphony and my design is that Lotus
> Symphony's side bar does not constitute of panels which change based on what
> the user has selected.
> 
> The overall design concept is copied below from my original posting to the
> design mailing list:
> 
> *
> I've had this idea for a while now and I wanted to see what everyone here
> thought of it, so here it goes!
> 
> Its based on two simple premises.  First, I noticed that monitors are
> getting wider but the documents we type up are still vertically oriented.
> Secondly, I find floating toolbars to be extremely cumbersome.  So I decided
> I'd try to tackle both of these issues in a simple, easy-to-use manner.
>  Attached to this email is the concept that I currently have (or at least
> the beginnings of it).  So, here's my plan:
> 
>    1. Have a single toolbar at the top that contains actions that can be
>    used no matter what application you're using.
>    2. Move any additional toolbars to the right hand side and organize them
>    into groups based on what the user currently has selected.  So let's say
>    you're editing a Writer document and you have some text selected that is in
>    a Table.  You would have 3 primary categories (at the top of the right-hand
>    part of the screen): Document, Table, and Text.  'Document' is always
>    present and handles document-wide settings.  Table might contain
>    subcategories of Row, Column, Cell, and Display.  All of these would 
> contain
>    toolbar items to modify aspects of these subcategories.  Text then, might
>    contain Font, Paragraph, and Section as subcategories.  And so on and so
>    forth.  I also had the idea that hovering over a primary category or a
>    subcategory might emphasize what would be affected in the main document 
> area
>    by shading everything else, but I also know that that would not be a
>    necessity.  For the purposes of the design, this right-hand area can be
>    called the context tool panel.
>    3. Move the menus to the left-hand side, placing them above whatever is
>    typically the left side of any given LibreOffice application. (Impress/Draw
>    -> Slides, etc.).  Clicking one of these would then cause a panel to be
>    displayed categorizing items in the same manner as the context tool panel
>    which would contain the different actions the user can take.
>    4. Possibly: Allow for LibreOffice to run everything from a single window
>    by having a tab row at the top of the screen.  (I'm still not sold on this
>    idea, so let me know what you think.)
> 
> When it came to actually designing this new layout, I tried to pull from the
> current LibreOffice icons as much as possible, mainly because I think they
> are absolutely awesome!
> 
> Also, I do want to be forthcoming - I'm no UX or Design professional.  I'm a
> Computer Science major in the US, but I think that this kind of layout can
> not only give LibreOffice one of the most unique and (in my mind) usable
> User Interfaces on the planet, but I also think that it can help LibreOffice
> to be the very best office suite on the planet.
> *
> 
> The aforementioned attachments can be found here:
> http://pledgecomputers.com/LibreOffice/Redesign/Concept.pdf
> http://pledgecomputers.com/LibreOffice/Redesign/Concept.odg
> 
> Yours Truly,
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 16:48, RGB ES <rgb.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > 2011/4/26 Cyril Arnaud <cyril.arn...@gmail.com>:
> > > Most user I encountered (not that much, so there is no statistics behind
> > > this observation) are doing fine because they look around, search,
> > > experiment. But some users are "afraid" of searching, testing.
> > > That's why I find the Symphony's UI interesting. It's  shiny, you are
> > > more eager to play with it.
> >
> > Writer, for instance, is not an app that you can learn by trial and
> > error: you need to sit down for a while and RTFM ;)
> > But even if the interface could be improved and the learning curve
> > lowered, it is also true that "trial and error apps" are useful only
> > for simple tasks, and for simple tasks you can use abiword.
> > You cannot please everybody. And you cannot drive a jet the same way
> > you drive a bicycle. So the options are mainly two: to give "normal"
> > and "power" users two different apps, or to build only one app but
> > with two different UI.
> > I think that ooo4kids is starting to work on the second possibility.
> > Cheers
> > Ricardo
> >
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