Going back to the discussion about icons, could we possibly change the
default theme to Faenza or some other theme because when I show LibreOffice
(and OpenOffice before it) to people the two main negative reactions are:

1) The Interface is ugly and old

2) The icons are ugly

Now number one has been discussed almost to death on this mailing list but
number 2 also needs to be addressed.  Tango is a quite ugly icon pack that
looks bad on anything apart from certain linux themes.  If the interface
makes people reminisce about the late 90's and early 2000's, the icon pack
makes them believe that the software is actually that old.  Faenza, on the
other hand, has a much more modern icon pack that, when coupled with a
better interface, could give more credibility to the modernness of
LibreOffice

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Andrew Pullins <android2...@gmail.com>wrote:

> well that sucks, why are they going to keep it? are they going to keep it
> open source? if so why did the fork take place. if not and they are going
> to
> make it proprietary software why keep the name which make no since now.
>
> Though I can, know how, and have the tools to do so I really do not make
> Icons.  I would love to help with this posses but I have never done so... I
> could how ever make mock icons that some one could turn into a better icon.
>  maybe for a tool that does not have an icon or something.
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Bernhard Dippold <
> bernh...@familie-dippold.at> wrote:
>
> > Hi Andrew, all
> >
> > Andrew Pullins schrieb:
> >
> >  I am new to Open Source and did not find them right away on in the
> files.
> >> so
> >> I figured that they mite be on the Libre design wiki or some thing.  I
> >> found
> >> them shortly after looking on the wiki and posting this email.
> >>
> >
> > Great!
> >
> > If you have interest in improving our wiki in order to help other
> newcomers
> > to find their way more easily, please raise your hand (and anybody
> > interested in this task, too). Our wiki can look much better than
> nowadays,
> > but we haven't the time to add more helpful information and to improve
> the
> > existing pages.
> >
> >
> >   So the last
> >> I heard was that Oracle was going to donate the name Open Office back to
> >> the community.  Is there any news to update on this, and if they do is
> >> there preparation to change Libre back to Open.
> >>
> >
> > Unfortunately your information is wrong:
> >
> > Oracle donated the OpenOffice.org code to Apache but kept the
> intellectual
> > property as well as the trademark as far as I know.
> >
> > While our community here has been interested in getting back the name we
> > established over ten years as quite a strong brand, Oracle decided to
> create
> > a new community at Apache.
> >
> > If we had got back the OpenOffice.org brand, we would have had to decide,
> > if we should go back to the OOo brand, maintain both brand names by
> > combining them like "LibreOffice evolved from OpenOffice" or keep the
> > LibreOffice brand as we do now.
> >
> > Because the brand has not been handed over to TDF, all these thoughts are
> > in vain...
> >
> >
> >  I don't know what I will do
> >> with the icons but I think that they need some revamping.  not sure if
> >> there
> >> is a wiki devoted to that or not.  the hard thing to do is get them all
> to
> >> be the same style.  thanks for the help though.
> >>
> >
> > I don't think that we already have a wiki page showing all the menu icons
> > in all their different styles.
> >
> > It might be quite valuable to have an oversight.
> >
> > Starting such a task might be quite a pain, so you should consider to
> start
> > your work on a subpage of your wiki userpage like I did with mine:
> > http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/User:**Bedipp/Drafts<
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Bedipp/Drafts>
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Bernhard
> >
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