Hi Christopher! Am Dienstag, den 12.07.2011, 10:43 -0400 schrieb Christopher Lee: > I have to agree on the icons. Even if they are functional, they sure aren't > pretty (and this may be unrelated, but can we please 1) Get rid of that > hideous gray/black gradient on the down arrow at the end of toolbars-- it > looks really bad and breaks up the GUI
Seems that other guys think similarly - kudos to Kendy :-) http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~kendy/blog/archives/monthly/2011-06.html#2011-06-14T10_29_17.htm By the way (serious question) is anybody (but e.g. Bernhard) following the developer list and the planet? > , and 2) allow toolbar behavior, like > the showing of the "Full screen" toolbar, to be customized?). Faenza is a > good looking theme, and while it may not be to everyone's taste, at least we > can try this one out first. > > http://www.webupd8.org/2011/07/faenza-icons-for-libreoffice-toolbar.html Mmh, at least for me it is already difficult to distinguish most of the icons visible per default - the design is kind of abstract and removing (most of) the color among (in the source files) shape reduces distinctiveness. Besides that, there is a need for several hundred icons that need to be created to get a reasonable coverage for the interface. Unfortunately, this is the main issue to add an other icon set. "Unfortunately", LibreOffice has an incredible feature set - and a need to (more or less) fit to the different platforms. Cheers, Christoph > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Sean White <runicpala...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Going back to the discussion about icons, could we possibly change the > > default theme to Faenza or some other theme because when I show LibreOffice > > (and OpenOffice before it) to people the two main negative reactions are: > > > > 1) The Interface is ugly and old > > > > 2) The icons are ugly > > > > Now number one has been discussed almost to death on this mailing list but > > number 2 also needs to be addressed. Tango is a quite ugly icon pack that > > looks bad on anything apart from certain linux themes. If the interface > > makes people reminisce about the late 90's and early 2000's, the icon pack > > makes them believe that the software is actually that old. Faenza, on the > > other hand, has a much more modern icon pack that, when coupled with a > > better interface, could give more credibility to the modernness of > > LibreOffice > > > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Andrew Pullins <android2...@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > > > well that sucks, why are they going to keep it? are they going to keep it > > > open source? if so why did the fork take place. if not and they are going > > > to > > > make it proprietary software why keep the name which make no since now. > > > > > > Though I can, know how, and have the tools to do so I really do not make > > > Icons. I would love to help with this posses but I have never done so... > > I > > > could how ever make mock icons that some one could turn into a better > > icon. > > > maybe for a tool that does not have an icon or something. > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Bernhard Dippold < > > > bernh...@familie-dippold.at> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Andrew, all > > > > > > > > Andrew Pullins schrieb: > > > > > > > > I am new to Open Source and did not find them right away on in the > > > files. > > > >> so > > > >> I figured that they mite be on the Libre design wiki or some thing. I > > > >> found > > > >> them shortly after looking on the wiki and posting this email. > > > >> > > > > > > > > Great! > > > > > > > > If you have interest in improving our wiki in order to help other > > > newcomers > > > > to find their way more easily, please raise your hand (and anybody > > > > interested in this task, too). Our wiki can look much better than > > > nowadays, > > > > but we haven't the time to add more helpful information and to improve > > > the > > > > existing pages. > > > > > > > > > > > > So the last > > > >> I heard was that Oracle was going to donate the name Open Office back > > to > > > >> the community. Is there any news to update on this, and if they do is > > > >> there preparation to change Libre back to Open. > > > >> > > > > > > > > Unfortunately your information is wrong: > > > > > > > > Oracle donated the OpenOffice.org code to Apache but kept the > > > intellectual > > > > property as well as the trademark as far as I know. > > > > > > > > While our community here has been interested in getting back the name > > we > > > > established over ten years as quite a strong brand, Oracle decided to > > > create > > > > a new community at Apache. > > > > > > > > If we had got back the OpenOffice.org brand, we would have had to > > decide, > > > > if we should go back to the OOo brand, maintain both brand names by > > > > combining them like "LibreOffice evolved from OpenOffice" or keep the > > > > LibreOffice brand as we do now. > > > > > > > > Because the brand has not been handed over to TDF, all these thoughts > > are > > > > in vain... > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what I will do > > > >> with the icons but I think that they need some revamping. not sure if > > > >> there > > > >> is a wiki devoted to that or not. the hard thing to do is get them > > all > > > to > > > >> be the same style. thanks for the help though. > > > >> > > > > > > > > I don't think that we already have a wiki page showing all the menu > > icons > > > > in all their different styles. > > > > > > > > It might be quite valuable to have an oversight. > > > > > > > > Starting such a task might be quite a pain, so you should consider to > > > start > > > > your work on a subpage of your wiki userpage like I did with mine: > > > > http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/User:**Bedipp/Drafts< > > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Bedipp/Drafts> > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > > > > Bernhard > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+help@global.** > > libreoffice.org > > > <design%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org> > > > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** > > > > Netiquette <http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette> > > > > List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/design/< > > > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/> > > > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > > > deleted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org > > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > > deleted > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sean White, > > I've Seen the Cow Level > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > deleted > > > > > > > -- > Christopher Lee > Executive Director > Champion Debate Camp > Co-Captain > Thomas Jefferson Policy Debate Team > > --The Gunboat Debater-- > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted