On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 18:06 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 3:24 PM <s...@ramkrishna.me> wrote:
> > > 
> > 
> > I am too, but there is more to this.  I'm forced to use topicons or
> > some other because when I ask an application to quit, I have found
> > that
> > some applications don't really quit but instead are sitting in the
> > notification area.  That's kind of sub-optimal.  So even if you
> > like
> > the change we are forced to put topicons back invalidating the
> > design
> > because not everyone is playing fair.
> > 
> 
> The strategy we went for with the message tray removal was to say:
> If you have applications that insist on using status icons in this
> way, 
> use the topicons extension.
> 
> You make it sound like using topicions is somehow impure or bad.
> It isn't.

Yes, that's true.  I don't think it's bad or impure, but it isn't as
designed.  Obviously we would want to have an experience without having
to use topicons as our end state.

In the end, we're going to always use topicons unless something
dramatically changes in the status quo.  For me, it's mixed messaging.
It's further complicated by the fact that users pick one of many
topicons type extensions and have an issue.  It's not a big deal now,
but something worth addressing going forward if it happens that the lag
between desktop release and when it appears on distros continues to
shorten.

sri

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