Frank Ludolph wrote:
> Evan,
>
> Actually, instead of changing font sizes you should change the 
> resolution dots per inch (click Details on the fonts dialog). If you are 
> using a laptop or LCD screen the dot resolution is probably more like 
> 120 dpi than the default 96 dpi.
>   
Given most people use LCD screens nowadays, I guess we should either
change the default dpi, or use a larger font size.

Thanks,
-Evan

> That said, I'm beginning to think that perhaps we should go back to the 
> 10pt setting until this can be handled properly... :-(
>
> Frank
>
>
> Evan Yan wrote:
>   
>> I just installed vermillion 98 on my box, and experienced the new font
>> setting. The font size is very small to me as well. I have to change the
>> font size back to 10. AFAIK, other distributions set GNOME default font
>> size to 10 (as least Ubuntu 8.04 does).
>>
>> -Evan
>>
>> Jedy Wang wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 01:00 -0700, Frank Ludolph wrote:
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Hi Jedy,
>>>>
>>>> I'll reply since I was the one that suggested the sizes...
>>>>
>>>> Be sure to distinguish the system font sizes (8 pt) from the font
>>>> sizes for Thunderbird and Firefox. The latter are larger. What are you
>>>> using to read emails.
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> Hi Frank,
>>>
>>> I am using Evolution as my mail client.
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> I agree that the sizes sound quite small, but the default GNOME
>>>> default fonts look very, very large compared to the defaults on
>>>> Windows and Mac. The sizes shown in the UI spec provide approximately
>>>> the same appearance as those desktops. To arrive at them I ran 2008.05
>>>> under virtualbox on Windows XP in an alternate workspace and switched
>>>> between Windows and OpenSolaris workspaces. To test the system fonts I
>>>> used preferences panels, menus, file manager windows, etc. As a cross
>>>> check I set the same sizes on a bare metal install on a laptop.
>>>>
>>>> This applies of course to roman character sets. Asian fonts may
>>>> require something else?
>>>>
>>>> The same techniques were used to set the icon sizes.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, my eyesight is now quite poor. I find the suggested sizes to be
>>>> legible though occasionally a size too small for my old eyes.
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> If most people are comfortable with the font size, I am OK with using
>>> the size as the default setting. But I don't think we should change it
>>> just because it's different with Windows. When I am using Windows, I
>>> always want to make the font larger. The only reason preventing me to do
>>> this is that Windows does not work very well with larger font as GNOME
>>> does.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jedy
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jedy Wang wrote: 
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> Hi Calum,
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you really sure that default font size for GNOME is 8 pt? This size
>>>>> is really small and make it very hard to read mails.
>>>>>
>>>>> Developers of firefox also think 14/12 is too small for the browser. And
>>>>> according to their feedback, most browsers use 16.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jedy
>>>>> On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 17:41 +0100, Calum Benson wrote:
>>>>>   
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>>>>>           
>>>>>> Since we didn't quite get around to implementing the UI spec for  
>>>>>> 2008.05, we've recently been tweaking it a bit for 2008.11 (and have  
>>>>>> actually assigned people to make it happen this time...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://opensolaris.org/os/community/desktop/uispecs/indiana-uispec/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Comments welcome... it hasn't really changed too much since what we'd  
>>>>>> planned for 2008.05, bar a bit more panel reshuffling (to try and  
>>>>>> achieve a functional split of "actions and status" on top and "windows  
>>>>>> and workspaces" on the bottom), and some minor changes to accommodate  
>>>>>> upstream changes in GNOME 2.24.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheeri,
>>>>>> Calum.
>>>>>>
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