Ultra workstations are too priey for most, they're up there with  
Macs.  Apple doesn't offer anything in full desktop form for sub- 
$2000, and Sun's desktops at the specifications they should be are  
sold at $1800.  Most organizations buy from Dell because they can get  
them for $1100 a piece with hardware support.  I doubt availability of  
Codeweavers CrossOver would help Sun's position, they're doing things  
wrong in other areas.  There's a market but hardly as big as you might  
think.  Not many people really like (Open)Solaris these days due to  
years of stagnation in the public eye, while the truth is not that Sun  
was slacking, but the way they have always put up their products has  
not really attracted anyone until lately.  There's not enough  
statistics proving the future of Sun is a viable one, more on the  
complete opposite with their ticker change, stock split, slow and  
painful stock devaluing over the last year, and lack of trust in the  
community just to name a few issues.

Sun has a real PR problem and if they know it or not wouldn't make a  
difference since the majority of people migrating off of Windows for  
example would just go with Macs since they're current, their support  
is always quicker, it's UNIX certified just like Solaris, and it's a  
lot easier to maintain and develop for.  But that's just my take,  
though I seriously think some people here take the Solaris on the  
desktop idea too far, it's just not there yet.  Thankfully I recently  
saw Bluetooth finally starting back up again, I'm awaiting better  
power management and fixes for a number of bugs that have existed  
since the B70's.

Running OpenSolaris in VirtualBox is painfully hilarious, Sun should  
just loan Jermey an Ultra 40 with 4GB of ram.  If Sun can spin its  
position in the market it's a good bet we'll see it but then again I  
find FreeBSD to be a better platform than most, it lacks VirtualBox  
(Which may or may not be rectified now that Sun handles it) and 64-bit  
NVIDIA drivers (For years, see BSDTalk #146 for my comments about  
annoyances with FreeBSD, NVIDIA, Sun, Innotek, VMware, Adobe) those  
are the two things I have always been missing, and sorry to say I find  
FreeBSD as unsupported as it is by itself a better desktop.  There's  
too much nutty behavior in OpenSolaris.  I certainly find 2008.5 to be  
a regression even though it means well, just too many strange problems.

James
On May 28, 2008, at 6:18 PM, Ch? Kristo wrote:

> Kawai,
>
> I have volunteered as an advocate to Codeweavers and Jeremy White  
> from Codeweavers is currently running OpenSolaris in VirtualBox. I  
> can't speak on their behalf but it would have to be in their  
> commercial interest to do so. With Sun Rays used in many corporate  
> environments that shouldn't be to hard to justify. Maybe Sun could  
> provide some sort of incentive - after all it could help push out  
> Sun Rays and Ultra Workstations to people who otherwise would look  
> at Linux, Mac or Windows.
>
>
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